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senna
response 100 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 7 02:22 UTC 2002

Three hours of intercourse?  How many positions are you using?
jazz
response 101 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 7 18:33 UTC 2002

        It depends on your definition of "useful", though.  "Useful" in an
evolutionary sense, certainly, but that includes some very useless-seeming
arms race behaviour and completely bizaare sexual selection adaptions.
sarkhel
response 102 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 18 22:01 UTC 2002

re99 Are not the homo sapiens also animals?
re98 its wrong to say thet the wild creatures don't do anything other than
those 3 things.Thay do play among themselves, look at the nests, dont you feel
it as an art? Hear the singing of birds, the different sounds of under water
animals, even with our high tech still we unable to copy it in perfection.
They do express their love, their anger and thoughts. I think the best energy
savors are human beings, because we wont do nything until we feel for it.Even
for sex we donot have any particular month or period.
gull
response 103 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 01:22 UTC 2002

Actually, only having sex when your partner is 'in heat' would be much more
energy efficient than having it any old time, the way humans do.  That's
probably why, of all the animals, only a few have sex at times when
reproduction isn't likely.  Dolphins, humans, and I believes great apes.
orinoco
response 104 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 05:15 UTC 2002

Er, that's not quite right.  Humans don't go into and out of heat in the same
way that, say, cats do.  Our sex drive and fertility wax and wane, but...
well, even if you follow the rhythm method perfectly, your results aren't
guaranteed.  

And besides, who says the only purpose of sex is reproduction?  All the
animals you mentioned as having "casual sex" also have elaborate social
systems, and sex is a pretty efficient way of strengthening social bonds.
mary
response 105 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 11:10 UTC 2002

I had read that there is really very little sex for fun outside
of reproductive needs in nature.  Like the donkey or mule, if I
remember correctly.  I have no idea if that's actually true though.
jaklumen
response 106 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 13:22 UTC 2002

What about bonobo chimps?  (well, true, it's not really intercourse 
that's involved-- just mostly touching that involves the genitals)
slynne
response 107 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 16:04 UTC 2002

 I have seen dogs humping trees, people legs, spayed dogs, etc. They 
always seem to be having fun and they definately arent filling any 
reproductive needs!
mary
response 108 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 16:16 UTC 2002

Normally, I'd get onto google and do a search of something like,
"Animals & Sex for the Fun of It", but the last time I did something
casual like that I paid for it with an obnoxious pop-up advertisement
which forced a reboot and residual porn mailings that went on for months.

I think Pat Robertson is involved, somewhere, but I can't prove it.
gull
response 109 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 18:13 UTC 2002

I'm not sure how much you can infer from how dogs act.  We've basically
bred dogs to be mentally-retarded wolves, so there's no telling how much of
their behaviour is because of that.
happyboy
response 110 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 18:21 UTC 2002

a border collie is a mentally retarded wolf?


*cough*

i met a boxer/mutt that figured out how to open a deadbolt...

my old collie/shepard mutt figured out how to *pull* open a
gate.
happyboy
response 111 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 18:26 UTC 2002

oops...anyway, if ANYTHING we've bred canines to be more ADAPTIVE than
their wolf cousins (not that i didn't call them *ancestors*) if there's 
and retardation it is they have been bred to be more emotionally 
dependant on another species than wolves or coyotes...we've made them 
more like us, which is kind of sad when you really think about it.

yeah you're right, dogs are retarded like people.
bhelliom
response 112 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 18:35 UTC 2002

"Desexing" animals doesn't rid them of their instincts.  My dog was 
spayed at six months, yet she plays a peculiar game with the males, 
especially the larger, more robust ones that are unfixed.  She'll get 
their attention by sticking that butt of hers in their faces and 
swishing her tail to one side and runs when they get close enough.  I 
suspect it's mainly because she wants to run and play, but a part of it 
is likely mating instinct also.
gull
response 113 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 20 23:05 UTC 2002

Dogs are basically wolves bred to never completely escape puppyhood.  That's
to make sure they stay submissive, mostly.  You can see other evidence of
it, though, such as frequent barking.  (Mature wolves rarely bark.)
sarkhel
response 114 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 00:25 UTC 2002

I cannt say anything about dog, I am cynophobic. But I like to know more, its
an interesting animal , may be more interesting than that of a horse.
bru
response 115 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 03:51 UTC 2002

you people come up with some of the most bizarre statements.  Dogs are in fact
domesticated wolves.  Just as we domesticated cows, sheep, goats, cats (okay,
I really can't prove cats are domesticated) and other animals.  They maintain
many of the instincts attributed to the Wolf, but we have over many thousands
of years bred them to a variety of breeds with specialty skills.  At first
look, how many people would think a cocker spanial was related to the wolf.

But they all seek to form a position within the pack, they seek to see who
is the alpha male.  They challenge those they do not see as the alpha male
until the plpha male puts them in their place.
jaklumen
response 116 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 12:01 UTC 2002

Cats are most likely an Egyptian domestication, from what little I 
know of ancient Egyptian history.  The wild cats of Northern Africa 
(not the great cats, of course) do look a lot like housecats, so I 
wonder if there is a connection.
scott
response 117 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 12:29 UTC 2002

Re 115:
No, actually our domesticated dog breeds are more like puppies than adults.
That's useful, since they exhibit more domestically useful behaviors than
wolves exhibit.  Take a look at a St. Bernard.  It's one of the biggest dogs,
but it looks more like a puppy than an adult.
happyboy
response 118 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 13:13 UTC 2002

re115:  so you are saying that dogs are directly descended from wolves?

heh.
bhelliom
response 119 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 15:19 UTC 2002

Bru, you were saying that wolves rarely bark?  I believe the equivalent 
is true for cats . . . for instance barn cats, being more ferrel than 
normal house cats, often cannot "meow."  Big cats, I believe, 
don't "purr" per se either.
slynne
response 120 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 15:59 UTC 2002

I read a book recently about a history of dogs and it was suggested 
that dogs have evolved to look like human children in order to take 
advantage of *our* instincts. Also, dogs are quite different than 
wolves in many ways and are not really all that much like wolf puppies. 
Basically dogs have evolved in a different direction than 
wolves...something that people started controlling with breeding pretty 
recently. They are not simply retarded wolves.
happyboy
response 121 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 16:21 UTC 2002

i'm not sure they evolved *from* wolves...if so, which "type"
of wolves?
slynne
response 122 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 16:36 UTC 2002

I think what I read was that wolves and dogs evolved from a common 
ancester. 
happyboy
response 123 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 17:18 UTC 2002

brooke evolved from a VERY SILLY alien being.

crissy evolved from a stinky skunk-type critter
slynne
response 124 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 21 18:14 UTC 2002

Haha. yeah, just the other day I thought I might have a gas leak in my 
house and well, it *was* a gas leak but the gas was leaking out of 
Crissy and not the furnace. har har. Her breath is stinky too and her 
fur. 

My Dad's nicknames for my dogs are Speedy and Stinky. ;)
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