|
|
| Author |
Message |
| 25 new of 388 responses total. |
gelinas
|
|
response 100 of 388:
|
Nov 27 22:10 UTC 2001 |
(That's what I thought, 'til I took a closer look at the score for "dubious".)
|
brighn
|
|
response 101 of 388:
|
Nov 28 03:43 UTC 2001 |
hmmm... good point.
well, if you've got a guess, go for it
|
gelinas
|
|
response 102 of 388:
|
Nov 28 03:57 UTC 2001 |
No, I don't. I'm going to have to wait for "holiday"'s score.
|
brighn
|
|
response 103 of 388:
|
Nov 28 04:00 UTC 2001 |
was there a scoring error on dubious? as far as I can tell, there's no string
of letters that satisfies all the clues, let alone a word.
|
gelinas
|
|
response 104 of 388:
|
Nov 28 04:57 UTC 2001 |
I tried an analysis, but it's too long to actually post. I recommend
patience. :)
|
gelinas
|
|
response 105 of 388:
|
Nov 28 08:21 UTC 2001 |
So I tried again. :)
netizen 1,0 (brighn) --tiz-- ---i---
nothing 1,2 (gelinas) -othi-g -o-hi-- i is right, so o or g placed*
haggard 1,2 (gelinas) haggard ha--ar- ha + a|r
created 0,2 (brighn) cr-at-d cr-a--- one of ra, so c
noggins 1,1 (gelinas) -oggi-- -o--i-- i is right, so o or g placed*
dubious 1,1 (brighn) dubiou- ---io-- i, if g not b
naughty 1,2 (gelinas) -aughty -au-h-y a|u
nemeses 0,0 (brighn)
ravings 1,1 (gelinas) ravi-g- ravi---
ravines 1,1 (brighn) ravi--- ravi--- if one rav, not g.
The two lines marked by * put the "correctly placed" /g/ in _different_
places, but both have /o/ in the same place.
Given the elimination of /s/ by "nemeses", and the elimination of /d/
by "dubious", we are left with:
solidly 5,0 (gelinas) -oli-ly
Note that the scores for "haggard" and "created" result in four letters,
/h/, /a/, /c/, and either /r/ or a second /a/, to fit in two spots.
|
blaise
|
|
response 106 of 388:
|
Nov 28 15:06 UTC 2001 |
holiday 7,0 (brighn)
You're right, I screwed up on dubious, it should have been 1,2.
|
brighn
|
|
response 107 of 388:
|
Nov 28 15:17 UTC 2001 |
Here's my own analysis. From "solidly", we know:
_olidly = 5,0
giving us one of these frames:
1.__lidly
2._o_idly
3._ol_dly
4._oli_ly
5._olid_y
6._olidl_
From "netizen" and "nemeses", we know:
__tiz__ = 1,0
This rules out 3 (because _olidly would be worth 6).
Further, we know that three of the letters must be in "haggard", which rules
out 4.
This leaves us:
1.__lidly
2._o_idly
5._olid_y
6._olidl_
where the two blanks must be filled with two of (h,a,g,g,a,r). Also, we know
that exactly one of the two letters from haggar_ must be in the right place:
1a. hglidly
1b. hrlidly
1c. galidly
1d. aalidly
1e. ralidly
2a. hoaidly
2b. horidly
2c. aogidly
2d. gogidly
2e. rogidly
5a. holiday
5b. holidgy
5c. aolidry
5d. golidry
6a. holidla
6b. holidlg
6c. holidlr
Exactly two of the letters are from rad (created, no c, e, t in the remaining
strings), which rules out 1a, 1e, 2d, 5b, 5c, 6b.
Exactly two of the letters are from oggi (noggins, no n, s [nemeses]), which
also rules out 1b, 1d, 2c, 2e, 5d.
Since there's no e, there's no g (ravines/ravings), ruling out 1c.
This leaves us with:
2a. hoaidly
2b. horidly
5a. holiday
6a. holidla
6c. holidlr
No n, u, g, or t, so naughty tells us there is an a, h, and y, and that the
y is in the final position (since h and a are different in all cases from
naughty). That rules out all but 2a. and 5a:
2a. hoiadly
5a. holiday
created rules out 2a ("a" in the same position), so "holiday" is the only
string of seven letters that satisfies all the scorings but dubious. Which
means that at least one of the words is scored wrong (or the solution word
has more than 7 letters). =}
Hey, at least we got to see how two different people approached the same
problem. ;} And since Joe and I came to the same conclusion, I'll take the
next round.
Ironic that dubious's scoring would be dubious.
Since we appear to be slowly losing our group on sanity, I'm thinking of an
eight latter word (fewer options, I think, but increasingly obscure ones).
|
brighn
|
|
response 108 of 388:
|
Nov 28 15:24 UTC 2001 |
erp! dyslexia struck in 2a, it's hoaidly, and it isn't ruled out by created
after all. Oops. =} So 2a. and 5a. are equally possible under all the scorings
but dubious, but only 5a. is a word (I s'pose 2a. could be a loan word, or
a joke misspelling of "widely" with an affected British accent, which had
worked its way into the lexicon in its own right).
|
gelinas
|
|
response 109 of 388:
|
Nov 28 20:44 UTC 2001 |
To get us going:
starting
|
blaise
|
|
response 110 of 388:
|
Nov 28 20:56 UTC 2001 |
software
|
brighn
|
|
response 111 of 388:
|
Nov 28 21:02 UTC 2001 |
starting 2,2 (gelinas) (good first guess ;} )
software 2,1 (blaise)
|
gelinas
|
|
response 112 of 388:
|
Nov 28 23:16 UTC 2001 |
This next guess has been a
struggle
|
brighn
|
|
response 113 of 388:
|
Nov 29 03:00 UTC 2001 |
struggle 1,2 (gelinas) (hopefully not too much of a struggle...)
|
blaise
|
|
response 114 of 388:
|
Nov 29 03:04 UTC 2001 |
sandwich
|
brighn
|
|
response 115 of 388:
|
Nov 29 04:40 UTC 2001 |
sandwich 1,1 (blaise)
|
gelinas
|
|
response 116 of 388:
|
Nov 29 06:56 UTC 2001 |
shutters
|
blaise
|
|
response 117 of 388:
|
Nov 29 13:29 UTC 2001 |
shysters
|
brighn
|
|
response 118 of 388:
|
Nov 29 14:51 UTC 2001 |
shutters 1,1 (gelinas)
shysters 1,1 (blaise)
|
gelinas
|
|
response 119 of 388:
|
Nov 30 04:26 UTC 2001 |
Looks like we are getting nowhere fast.
manatees
|
brighn
|
|
response 120 of 388:
|
Nov 30 05:21 UTC 2001 |
manatees 0,3 (gelinas)
*ponders if 8 isn't getting to the point of too difficult*
I should point out: The solution word is one that any college-educated person
should recognize easily, but which may be at the fringes of a high school
student's vocabulary.
|
blaise
|
|
response 121 of 388:
|
Nov 30 16:03 UTC 2001 |
solution
|
blaise
|
|
response 122 of 388:
|
Nov 30 17:11 UTC 2001 |
I have now created an automatic scoring system similar to do.lm for this.
It is in ~blaise/bin and the two files are mm.awk (the guts of the system)
and check.mm (the wrapper). It expects a file word.mm in the current
directory containing the target word and accepts a list of words and users.
It overwrites matm with the current set of guesses and appends it to
master.match.
This will keep at least me from repeating the mistake I made this past time.
|
gelinas
|
|
response 123 of 388:
|
Nov 30 17:26 UTC 2001 |
Thank you, Jim. I, at least, will, in due course, crib from you. :)
|
brighn
|
|
response 124 of 388:
|
Nov 30 18:38 UTC 2001 |
solution 1,1 (gelinas) *whimpes* no more 1,1, I'm getting sick of it =}
|