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ryan
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response 10 of 79:
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Jan 24 16:45 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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janc
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response 11 of 79:
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Jan 24 17:00 UTC 2004 |
I feel Joe's actions were entirely appropriate and would have done the same
in his place.
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scott
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response 12 of 79:
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Jan 24 17:26 UTC 2004 |
Ditto.
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remmers
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response 13 of 79:
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Jan 24 17:32 UTC 2004 |
Same here.
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cross
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response 14 of 79:
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Jan 24 18:46 UTC 2004 |
I did do the same thing in Joe's place once, with the same user, so yeah,
I concur.
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naftee
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response 15 of 79:
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Jan 24 19:00 UTC 2004 |
Acutually, joe was far less enthusiastic with locking accounts than you were.
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richard
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response 16 of 79:
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Jan 24 19:12 UTC 2004 |
I agree and since all those items have the same text, I think you could kill
all but one of them and not be reasonably accused of censorship. I don't like
the kill command, I think moderators shouldn't have it, but cfadmin and root
needs to have it for such situations
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naftee
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response 17 of 79:
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Jan 24 20:01 UTC 2004 |
You forgot about "retire" again. That's why you're uncomfortable.
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md
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response 18 of 79:
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Jan 24 20:19 UTC 2004 |
I'd've deleted all the items and killed the account and never given it
a second thought. Of course, I also edited dah's responses in the mnet
Agora cf to make it sound like he was calling himself an asshole, so
I'm a terrible example. I would hope nobody on Grex would ever do such
a thing. That would be totally reprehensible in a conference like
Agora on Grex. So don't do it. I mean it.
I should add that when I saw the first Plato's Republic item, I was
hoping the others would each be another classic, like Moby Dick, War
and Peace, Paradise Lost, Pride and Prejudice, and so on. That would
have been cool in a geeky way. But then I found out they were all the
same and so just geeky and uncool.
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keesan
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response 19 of 79:
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Jan 24 20:33 UTC 2004 |
Can we decide to put a size limit on all responses and automatically (or
manually) kill anything that exceeds the limit, as well as all copies of
anything entered in more than 2 copies (to allow for errors)? Would this
require a member vote? Five pages of text seems like a reasonable limit to
me (25 line pages). I tend not to read things longer than that anyway.
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janc
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response 20 of 79:
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Jan 24 21:10 UTC 2004 |
I don't think we need to write a new policy every time some poor staff member
has to change polytarp's diaper. Clean up the mess, and get on with life.
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bhoward
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response 21 of 79:
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Jan 25 03:20 UTC 2004 |
The posted items were clear abuse. Joe's response was entirely appropriate.
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jaklumen
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response 22 of 79:
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Jan 25 10:24 UTC 2004 |
I have to agree. resp:18 Interesting thought... if they were all
different, well, that might have been one thing. But it was just
clear spam.
I wasn't reading this crap, but I figure the action taken as described
was appropriate... you had a point to prove again, polyboy?
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md
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response 23 of 79:
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Jan 25 13:25 UTC 2004 |
Nope. He just wants to be noticed. Is that so wrong?
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kip
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response 24 of 79:
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Jan 25 14:20 UTC 2004 |
nah, and I should be able to scream at the top of my lungs the same thing over
and over and over again standing in the middle of my favorite restaurant
without fear of repercussion.
right....
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jp2
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response 25 of 79:
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Jan 25 14:27 UTC 2004 |
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kip
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response 26 of 79:
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Jan 25 14:54 UTC 2004 |
heh, okay, Jamie, let's have some fun and get to know each other better. I'm
guessing you're of the mind that Schenck v. United States [249 U.S. 247,
1919] says the free speech is protected until there is a clear and present
danger to the speech?
Thus as long as someone doesn't actually destroy Grex through speech, it's
fine. Doesn't matter that speech might bring the system to its knees through
what I would essentially call spam.
Would that be an accurate description of your opinion? Just wanting to be
sure I understand how much free speech Grex is supposed to be protecting.
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cyklone
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response 27 of 79:
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Jan 25 15:44 UTC 2004 |
I don't see any censorship issues raised when multiple identical posts are
deleted, so long as one remains. It's kind of like a school bulletin board
that allows only one flyer to be posted due to space limits. As long as
all flyers are so limited, there is no censorship. I think staff acted
appropriately.
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slynne
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response 28 of 79:
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Jan 25 15:57 UTC 2004 |
Ah, the kids are testing the limits. That is what they do. I think Joe
did a very good job with this situation.
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keesan
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response 29 of 79:
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Jan 25 17:06 UTC 2004 |
I think we should also delete any postings over a certain size so they don't
take up the entire disk.
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jp2
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response 30 of 79:
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Jan 25 17:44 UTC 2004 |
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kip
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response 31 of 79:
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Jan 25 18:38 UTC 2004 |
I'm personally not in favor of the "clear and present danger" argument, but
I was under the impression that you believed that was the only time *free
speech* could be restricted.
Please explain to me what you believe the red-lettered *free speech* should
mean on the Grex's web page.
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jp2
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response 32 of 79:
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Jan 25 18:49 UTC 2004 |
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nestene
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response 33 of 79:
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Jan 25 20:46 UTC 2004 |
How long have these jerks been acting like this? (The kids I mean;
staff are not jerks.)
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md
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response 34 of 79:
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Jan 25 21:29 UTC 2004 |
30: The plural of "asterisk" is "asterisks," stupid.
Deleting all of the "Republic" items had nothing to do with suppression
of free speech, obviously. Anyone who pretends to turn it into a free
speech discussion is just pulling your chains, Grexers. Ignore them.
(Btw, the idea of "preserving free speech" by leaving one copy of
Plato's Republic in the Agora cf is pretty hilarious. Sorry.)
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