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tod
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response 10 of 80:
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Mar 29 19:44 UTC 2005 |
I saw him on 60 Minutes. He seems like a jerk.
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bru
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response 11 of 80:
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Mar 29 20:45 UTC 2005 |
But a very rich jerk! Actually, I think he is a bit self centered, but also
very ...different. Did you see his TV show this last season. He tried to
doa TRump type show where he gave away a million dollars, but they did
thinkgs like play JENGA to eliminate one of the people.
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tod
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response 12 of 80:
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Mar 29 20:49 UTC 2005 |
I must have missed that blockbuster.
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naftee
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response 13 of 80:
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Mar 29 20:49 UTC 2005 |
That's because you're unlucky.
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bru
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response 14 of 80:
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Mar 29 22:52 UTC 2005 |
It was originally scheduled for 12 shows but they cut it to 6. I think it
was called the benefactor.
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anderyn
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response 15 of 80:
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Mar 30 14:35 UTC 2005 |
It was. He came off as very ... arrogant, but then, if I made that much
money, I bet I could get away with that, too.
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remmers
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response 16 of 80:
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Mar 30 15:27 UTC 2005 |
Arrogant money has exactly the same purchasing power as humble money. :)
And this is a good cause.
I've been reading Mark Cuban's blog (http://www.blogmaverick.com) for a
while (except for the sports postings, in which I have no interest). He
has strong views, and writes passionately about them, but he backs them
up with data, and he seems generally reasonable. Never seen him on TV -
maybe his in-person persona comes off differently from his in-print
persona. Computer conferencing veterans know how that can work.
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tod
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response 17 of 80:
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Mar 30 16:25 UTC 2005 |
Arrogance will get you good customer service but can still get you punched
in the mouth.
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krj
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response 18 of 80:
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Apr 1 18:48 UTC 2005 |
Here's the best combination of information and entertainment I have
found on the arguments before the Supreme Court in the Grokster case.
http://www.wetmachine.com/index.php/item/255
Some quick comments:
1) Not from this article, but from another source, one of the Justices
(Scalia, I think) said this case would not be decided on the basis
of "stare decisis," which more-or-less translates as "we're going
to follow precedent." So the Betamax precedent is open for
tweaking.
2) Questions from the Justices indicated that they were very sensitive
to the issue of allowing new technologies to be choked off by lawsuits
from the content industries. To paraphrase the EFF, at least the
Justices were asking the right questions.
3) The Justices don't like the point that Grokster "was making money from
wholesale violation of the copyright laws." (But the VCR business
was similarly built!!) Plaintiff MGM wants to get towards some sort
of a standard where the business model of a company is examined in
determining the company's liability for contributing to infringement:
but all that's going to do is make sure that the next iteration of
file sharing does not involve a business.
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remmers
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response 19 of 80:
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Apr 2 11:45 UTC 2005 |
Oh the irony:
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/04/01/valenti_signs_betama.html
(Maybe this should go in the humor item...)
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gull
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response 20 of 80:
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Apr 4 15:01 UTC 2005 |
Re resp:18: Great article!
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krj
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response 21 of 80:
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May 6 16:44 UTC 2005 |
Cory Doctorow of the EFF reports that a Federal court has struck
down the FCC's attempt to mandate the "Broadcast Flag" technology
for any digital device which could manipulate a video signal,
such as your computer, to control how TV programming was used.
Cory says the court ruled "... that the FCC does not have the
jurisdiction to regulate what people do with TV shows after they've
received them." The FCC had argued that the Broadcast Flag was
justified under its mandate to promote the switch from today's
analog TV to digital TV; opponents had argued that Broadcast Flag
was at root a copyright issue, and FCC was way out of line in
meddling in copyright matters without an explicit charge from
Congress.
I haven't looked for a mainstream news source
on this yet:
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/05/06/vtv_day_we_won_the_b.html
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marcvh
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response 22 of 80:
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May 6 17:28 UTC 2005 |
This is big news. Is this subject to appeal by a higher court or is it
final?
If it's final, of course, that doesn't mean it's over, as the content
providers have enough sway in Congress that they might persuade them to
enact legislation either giving the FCC this authority or accomplishing
much the same thing directly.
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krj
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response 23 of 80:
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May 7 15:58 UTC 2005 |
Court rulings are never final unless they come from the US Supreme
Court. :)
In the link I cited above, Cory Doctorow doesn't think the
chances of moving legislation through Congress are very good.
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krj
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response 24 of 80:
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May 7 16:13 UTC 2005 |
I've piled up a number of items in my browser and I'm just going to
dump them in here this weekend.
First, a column from those wild-eyed communist radicals at London's
FINANCIAL TIMES newspaper: "Deconstructing Stupidity," by James Boyle.
At the risk of oversimplifying, Boyle argues that society-at-large has
bought into the argument that the more intellectual property, the
better , and he thinks this is a stupid argument. A couple of quotes:
>>> "Part of the delusion depends on the idea that inventors and
artists create from nothing. Who needs a public domain of accessible
material if one can create out of thin air? But in most cases this
simply isn*t true; artists, scientists and technologists build on the
past. How would the blues, jazz, Elizabethan theatre, or Silicon
valley have developed if they had been forced to play under today*s
rules? Don*t believe me? Ask a documentary filmmaker about clearances,
or a free-software developer about software patents."
>>> "An Industry Contract: Who are the subjects of IP << Intellectual
Property Law >> ? They used to be companies. You needed a printing
press or a factory to trigger the landmines of IP. The law was set up
as a contract between industry groups. This was a cosy arrangement,
but it is no longer viable. The citizen-publishers of cyberspace, the
makers of free software, the scientists of distributed data-analysis
are all now implicated in the IP world. The decision-making structure
has yet to adjust."
The whole article:
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/39b697dc-b25e-11d9-bcc6-00000e2511c8.html
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drew
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response 25 of 80:
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May 8 00:42 UTC 2005 |
*Why* would the public "buy into" something like Intellectual Property?
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mcnally
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response 26 of 80:
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May 8 02:02 UTC 2005 |
Because the corporations most responsible for shaping public opinion
have a lot of money riding on their current business models, which are
founded on certain assumptions about intellectual property law?
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steve
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response 27 of 80:
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May 9 03:47 UTC 2005 |
And, because some parts of IP are reasonable. The problem is that
IP law and the realities of technology have gone comepletly apart.
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remmers
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response 28 of 80:
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May 9 13:21 UTC 2005 |
I was really happy to hear the the courts struck down the broadcast flag.
Re #26: Indeed. I think that current intellectual property law is more
about preserving the business models of the middlemen rather than
protecting the rights of the creators themselves. How else to explain
the absurd extension of copyright terms far beyond the probable lifetime
of the creator of the copyrighted work.
The Boyle article that Ken cites in #24 does a good job of explaining
how modern IP law works against the public interest and stifles rather
than promotes creativity. If Shakespeare had had to work in today's IP
legal environment, he'd probably have been sued out of business. After
all, he shamelessly borrowed his stories from other sources.
Another good read along the same lines as the Boyle piece is "The
Copyright Cage," by Jonathan Zittrain. URL:
http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July-August-2003
/feature_zittrain_julaug03.html
(Or, if long URLs are problematic for you, http://tinyurl.com/fbqd will
also work for a while.)
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nharmon
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response 29 of 80:
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May 11 14:23 UTC 2005 |
There is no such thing as intellectual property. All information is public
domain, the government just enforces limited-time monopolies to the people
who discover or invent the information first. It is hoped that these
monopolies will motivate people to discover and invent more.
I mean, how can you own something, and then suddenly not own it just because
a specific amount of time has passed? Intellectual property is a concept that
was constructed by corporations in order to maximize profit.
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gull
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response 30 of 80:
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May 11 16:59 UTC 2005 |
Re resp:29: "I mean, how can you own something, and then suddenly not
own it just because a specific amount of time has passed?"
It occasionally happens in real estate. Adverse possession is a good
example.
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nharmon
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response 31 of 80:
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May 11 17:11 UTC 2005 |
Adverse possession means different things in different states, but it usually
implies an abandonment of the real property. I'm not sure if that fits in very
well.
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marcvh
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response 32 of 80:
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May 11 18:02 UTC 2005 |
There's a little variation but basically it means there must be possession,
it must be notorious (obvious) and hostile (no permission was given.)
It doesn't require abandonment, just that you not do anything to stop
it. Another example of losing something based on time is encroachment,
although the underlying nature is similar.
In the grand scheme of things, none of us ever really owns anything, we
just are granted limited use of it for limited times for limited
purposes. And, given recent changes in the law, it's unclear that
certain IP laws (copyrights) don't de facto last forever.
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tod
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response 33 of 80:
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May 12 15:29 UTC 2005 |
Intellecutal property rights are good for protecting the value of one's
intellect. I guess if you're a communist then you might prefer to say that
intellectual property rights are a corporate construct but as an engineer or
inventor one might find a different truth.
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nharmon
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response 34 of 80:
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May 12 17:12 UTC 2005 |
You don't have to be a communist to see that intellectual property rights are
only in the best interest of corporations. And even without copyright or
patent laws, there would still be engineers and inventors.
It is pretty ridiculous that copyrighted works last almost a hundred years.
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