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keesan
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response 10 of 122:
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Dec 9 20:02 UTC 1998 |
Thanks to both of you for your efforts, what I was hoping to end up with was
an item in Classicalmusic which was linked to Music, is that what we ended
up with? How does one retire a copy, I need to do that to some listings in
Classifieds that sold (or went into the dumpster).
Next time I go to the library I will look for your suggestions on CD.
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md
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response 11 of 122:
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Dec 9 20:35 UTC 1998 |
This is now linked to Classical as Item 42.
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krj
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response 12 of 122:
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Dec 9 20:53 UTC 1998 |
Sindi, I'll pull together some CDs to loan to you, if you'd like.
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keesan
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response 13 of 122:
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Dec 10 02:02 UTC 1998 |
That is awfully nice of you, but maybe the library also has them, let me know
a few suggested titles to look for. I went to Scandinavian dancing for a
while and like the fiddle music, but am curious as to what good new music is
around that is not designed mainly to be loud, or too easy listening.
I have heard some interesting stuff on the Ypsi station, recently composed
in the style of Indian classical music, by Germans.
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davel
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response 14 of 122:
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Dec 10 03:48 UTC 1998 |
Sindi, I play (a bit of) hammered dulcimer, so I'm seeing quite a lot
of stuff built around that; & there are a lot of people out there with
recordings you might like. The largest bulk falls into traditional &
modern folk genres, but there's a fair amount of classical- based stuff
that I (at least) enjoy. (Some of this is commercially available;
a lot is more-or-less self-distributed.)
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keesan
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response 15 of 122:
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Dec 11 20:02 UTC 1998 |
I liked Bolling's classical jazz. Where would I look for other
classical-based stuff for other instruments? Are there particular composers
to look for? I will check the library's folk section.
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e4808mc
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response 16 of 122:
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Dec 11 22:08 UTC 1998 |
Oops. Someone linked it again before it got killed in Plants.
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orinoco
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response 17 of 122:
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Dec 11 22:22 UTC 1998 |
Another direction to look in... there's a decent number of bands with a big
big classical influence who often get lumped into the Goth category for some
reason, probably 'cause nobody knows where to put them. Off the top of my head
I'm thinking of Dead Can Dance and Never The Bride, and maybe Rasputina.
Dead Can Dance has influences from all over the place; mostly ethnic folk and
medaeval music is what it sounds like to me. I haven't heard very much Never
The Bride, but what I've heard sounds pretty classical - Piano, vocals, and
cello.
I honestly don't know whether you'd like Rasputina or not, but I have to plug
them 'cause they're one of my favorite bands right now. They're an electric
cello trio, and their sound drifts quite a bit - their first album, _Thanks
For the Ether_ was more acoustic, and their second, _How We Quit the Forest_
is much 'harder' and more electric-sounding. They also act more like a typical
Goth band, and can be a little offensive at times, but... okay, I'm just going
to stop making disclaimers. They're really, really good, and with a distinct
classical influence, and...yeah. Listen to _Thanks For the Ether_, I'm
guessing you'll like it.
I'll ask Liza the Resident Goth Expert for some more reccomendations.
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keesan
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response 18 of 122:
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Dec 12 01:04 UTC 1998 |
Thanks again, can you define what Goth music is, if that is possible? I had
not heard of it until now.
I find that the New Age music played just before midnight on the radio
puts me to sleep (is that intentional)? It all seems rather repetitious, but
is some of it better than other parts? Our neighbor has been trying to point
out why some jazz is better than others.
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davel
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response 19 of 122:
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Dec 12 13:32 UTC 1998 |
Some of it is indeed quite good, but ... most of it puts me to sleep, too.
Possibly it's no accident that they play it late at night.
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cloud
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response 20 of 122:
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Dec 13 05:20 UTC 1998 |
Some jazz is better than others. Simply put, almost any jazz is better than
Kenny G... At least, that's my not-so-humble opinion.
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keesan
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response 21 of 122:
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Dec 13 14:09 UTC 1998 |
My neighbor has the same opinion of Kenny G, who I only heard of because we
were given a free copy of him at Kiwanis, which we use to test CD players,
and then someone who bought a player said he was her favorite. He apparently
sings one note for 45 minutes (a bit boring in my opinion). Can you recommend
any good jazz music that is less random-sounding than average?
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orinoco
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response 22 of 122:
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Dec 14 02:28 UTC 1998 |
Re defining goth: I was afraid you were going to ask something like that:)
The only thing goth bands really have in common with each other is their
generally dark mood. The bands I reccomended in #17 are all an etheral, kinda'
melancholy sort of dark. There are also goth bands who are loud, angry, and
obnoxious sorts of dark. It really depends.
Meaning "go get some goth music" was probably not a good reccomendation. :)
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mcnally
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response 23 of 122:
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Dec 14 17:39 UTC 1998 |
No, but the pointer to Dead Can Dance was probably a good one..
Perhaps Cocteau Twins might also fit the bill -- I'm trying to think
of music that's lush, layered, and atmospheric..
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keesan
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response 24 of 122:
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Dec 14 18:05 UTC 1998 |
Would Borders have anything in this category that I could listen to?
I should go take a look, with a list of the above suggestions.
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coyote
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response 25 of 122:
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Dec 14 23:39 UTC 1998 |
Yes, I'd highly recommend Dead Can Dance as well. They have a very broad
range of styles, however, so just picking up one album might not show you what
all they do. My two personal favorite albums are probably "Into the
Labyrinth" and "Aion", which both have very different characters, but I like
all of their albums (at least the ones that I own).
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keesan
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response 26 of 122:
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Dec 15 02:52 UTC 1998 |
Do they play traditional instruments or electronic ones? Or both?
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mcnally
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response 27 of 122:
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Dec 15 07:21 UTC 1998 |
Virtually all traditional instruments. From a pretty wide variety
of traditions, too..
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anderyn
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response 28 of 122:
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Dec 15 13:53 UTC 1998 |
I'll re-endorse the Dead Can Dance recommendations. Even Bruce (my
husband who doesn't like much *modern* music) liked them. They're a very
lush sound, very layered....
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keesan
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response 29 of 122:
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Dec 15 18:42 UTC 1998 |
I just copied down the suggestions and will check for them at Borders and/or
the library and report back. Celtic, folk-rock and folk, hammered dulcimer,
and Goth (did I miss any?). krj, I appreciate your offer of lending CDs but
would be afraid to damage them (somehow I don't worry about library stuff).
We have some library books due today, so will be going into town.
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mcnally
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response 30 of 122:
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Dec 15 22:28 UTC 1998 |
Judging from the condition of many discs I've checked out of the
Ann Arbor public library you're not the only one who doesn't worry
about scratching them..
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bruin
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response 31 of 122:
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Dec 16 00:07 UTC 1998 |
RE #30 I had the same problem as you with library CD's, mcnally -- they have
been notorious for skipping parts of songs and sometimes getting stuck and
sounding like something from a science fiction movie. Guess there are a lot
of library patrons who don't treat library property with TLC. (Same goes for
all the library books and magazines which have pictures of naked people ripped
out of them.)
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albaugh
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response 32 of 122:
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Dec 16 06:49 UTC 1998 |
Call me an old fogey, but I'd highly recommend the "classic" Blood, Sweat,
and Tears and Chicago albums. The Moody Blues did some nice stuff also.
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krj
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response 33 of 122:
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Dec 16 15:16 UTC 1998 |
OK, you're an old fogey. :) For albaugh: if you like the old BS&T and
Chicago stuff, as my wife and I do, you might want to look for another
jazz-rock band from the same period called Chase, named for its leader
Bill Chase. http://www.great-music.com/chase/chase.htm
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keesan
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response 34 of 122:
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Dec 16 16:00 UTC 1998 |
Well, we got to the library ten minutes before closing, and I tried looking
in the electronic catalog for the various suggested categories and titles.
Found Never a Bride but nothing else except for some plain dulcimer Christmas
music, and they were closing before I figured out how to locate Never a Bride
on the shelf, so I got out some classical music from Iran and some harpsichord
music and some other folk and classical music and went to Borders. First time
I ever actually walked into their music dept. I figured out how to use their
touch screen after a while, and after several tries realized that Rasputina
is a performer and Never a Bride an album (you have to do three separate
searches for song, album, and performer) and guessed at the category (I think
it was rock). They had Rasputina and Dead Can Dance but not Never a Bride
(no longer published, since 1995) and lots of folk music but not the
recommended Scandinavian stuff (only the nonrecommended band). I then figured
out how to use the listening areas (first two were apparently broken) but
could not hear much over the loud and insistent background music. Listened
to a few things randomly in a few categories until the noise drove me away.
Does anyone actually go to Borders to buy classical music? They don't seem
to play anything that is not mainly loud percussion.
I will look for Never a Bride at the library, and perhaps Ken would
not mind taping me a few things, and the library might want to order some
Scandinavian folk music.
We have a book out currently with several pages cut out of it, all of
them seem to be scantily clad women (judging from the smaller BW versions of
the same things near the end). You would think they could have just bought
a Playboy magazine rather than cutting up a photography book.
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