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jaklumen
response 10 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 12 07:21 UTC 2002

eep.  Well, okay-- I don't know how to do any of the fw commands, but 
I am willing to lead.
jaklumen
response 11 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 13 02:33 UTC 2002

Okay.. I got an e-mail from Walter describing just what the 
responsibilities entail.  Most of it sounds reasonable.

resp:9  I appreciate your nomination, C.S.  I'm still considering at 
this time, mostly because our baby is not here yet (although today is 
the estimated due date).  I'd like to see if the remaining 
participants would support this motion.  It has been my observation 
that conferences with only one or two fws generally have strong 
support invested in those individuals.

I am also willing to start an AlAnon item of sorts, but I would insist 
that the scope be broadened.  It is true that the 12 steps were 
created by the founder of A.A., but they have been extended to so many 
other groups, including the following:

Narcotics Anonymous
Overeaters Anonymous
Co-Dependents Anonymous
Sexaholics Anonymous
Sexual Addicts Anonymous
Gambler's Anonymous

..and many other organizations associated with the topics those groups 
address, which are addictions other than alcoholism.  Many 
abuse/survivor organizations also use the 12 steps.
cmcgee
response 12 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 13 14:27 UTC 2002

I can start the item myself.  One thing that AlAnon is very focused on, is
that it is for people with "a problem of alcholism in a reative or friend".
We have Conference Approved Literature, and we work with AA.  AlAnon was
started by Lois W., Bill W.'s wife, and always has been connected with AA.
I can start the item myself, actually.  

One thing that AlAnon is very focused on, is that it is for people with "a
problem of alcholism in a reative or friend".  We have Conference Approved
Literature, and we work with AA.  AlAnon was started by Lois W., Bill W.'s
wife, and always has been connected with AA.

We have found in AlAnon meetings, that bringing in other programs often
causes us to lose sight of the Al Anon program and does not keep the focus
on the AlAnon member and the problems of alcohol in their life.

The other 12 step programs are good, too.  Some of my AlAnon friends go to
Overeater's Anonymous, some of my AlAnon friends are "double-winners" who
particpate in AA for their alcohol problem, and AlAnon for the alcohol
problem in their families.  But, as with AA, we do not talk about, or bring
into the meetings, other programs, religions, or anything else that
distracts us from learning how to work _this_ program.  That kind of
discussion is for after the meeting.  
Since the whole cf is about recovery, it would make sense to let each
recovery program start its own, focused item.  If there is enough interest,
the item will sustain itself.  
cmcgee
response 13 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 13 14:31 UTC 2002

Sorry about the editing problem, got the first paragraph in twice.
jaklumen
response 14 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 14 02:42 UTC 2002

Okay-- I understand the approach of tackling each issue separately.  I 
just happen to be holistically ("big-picture") minded, and I've had 
problems with multiple addictions.  My strategy has been to dig to the 
roots first.
jaklumen
response 15 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 22 09:28 UTC 2002

Has this conf died again?
jaklumen
response 16 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 22 09:29 UTC 2002

I ask because I checked the participant list.  We are very few in 
number.
void
response 17 of 17: Mark Unseen   May 22 19:30 UTC 2002

It's never been terribly active.
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