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emblem
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response 1 of 40:
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May 27 17:37 UTC 2002 |
heh...cool im the first one to respond.. :). Techno music for me is like
a total creativity of sound with technology. It has every emotion involved
in it, and thats different from other types of music because of that. As far
as style house and trance are my favorites. One thing i think that is
interesting about it is that when it first caught on the whole idea behind
it was anti-club. Raves were a place for people to go that didn't like the
mainstream stlyes, rock and hip hop mostly. Of course raves are known for drug
use, but any kind of party with music has that, so that shouldn't be an issue.
The first ever 'techno' recording came out in the late 70s from europe and
was actually called acid house. These people rented a recording studio for
like 3 days and locked themselves in and produced it. If you are really
curious about learning about techno music there is a DVD called Better Music
Though Technology. It's a great video and covers all aspects of the music.
artists....Paul Oakenfold, Carl Cox, Prodigy, Paul Van Dyk, Aphex Twin (which
is an aquired taste), Bad Boy Bill, DJ Fade, Acid Tech, oh man there is a
ton.....
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emblem
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response 2 of 40:
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May 27 17:43 UTC 2002 |
umm...that DVD could be called Better Living Through Technology, btw.
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jaklumen
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response 3 of 40:
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May 28 02:11 UTC 2002 |
resp:0 Nope, you're wrong. See item:50.
This is not the first time this has happened in the music conf,
however.
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mynxcat
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response 4 of 40:
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May 28 15:04 UTC 2002 |
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mynxcat
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response 5 of 40:
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May 28 18:54 UTC 2002 |
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jaklumen
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response 6 of 40:
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May 29 00:17 UTC 2002 |
I did a little techno clubbing back in 1992.
Perhaps to define things, perhaps this item could be about the club
culture surrounding this kind of music, while item:50 could be more of
a guide to the listener, e.g., those looking to become acquainted.
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mynxcat
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response 7 of 40:
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May 29 01:08 UTC 2002 |
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foobaz
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response 8 of 40:
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May 29 05:22 UTC 2002 |
Well mynx, it seems like you're trying to get an idea of how to find techno
that you like, so i'll answer your original question and that one too.
My favorite genres are Detroit techno (Derrick May, Carl Craig, kid606, Mike
Dykehouse), Braindance (Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Wagonchrist), Gabber
(Doormouse, Delta 9), and occasionally trancecore (Tilz, Brisk). I know
someone might take exception to me calling kid606 and Dykehouse "Detroit
techno", but i think of them as the new wave of Detroit's electronic
musicians. Also Brisk rarely makes trancecore, he's usually just happycore,
which i can't stand.
Now, the way i got into all this music was really just by hanging out with
other people who listen to a lot of techno (especially DJs), and playing stuff
for each other. Going to raves and clubs is a good way to have fun, but i've
never discovered wonderful new artists there whose CDs i'd want to buy there
(unless i was talking to someone there about music). I might certainly find
a DJ i'd want to see again, but most DJs don't make CDs, and are purely
performance artists. And those that do make CDs usually don't make great CDs.
Hearing a set live is much, much different than getting that same set on CD.
Another good way to find music is to go to a record store where they let you
listen to the music. Encore on Liberty is great for this, but you have to have
some idea of what you're looking for, cause 99.9% of their techno section is
utter crap. Record Exchange on South U will usually let you listen to stuff
if you bring your discman, but you have to ask nicely.
Hope this helps.
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mynxcat
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response 9 of 40:
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May 29 13:23 UTC 2002 |
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polytarp
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response 10 of 40:
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May 29 19:21 UTC 2002 |
See, 'cause some techno music makes you go like,
asFDAasSSASASASASASASASAASASSNDFHHHHHJJHHJHJHJHJHJHHJHJJHJHHUUH7UHHUHUHHUHUUHH
UUJU, while other makes you go less "asssaswwqqwwwqw" than that.
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emblem
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response 11 of 40:
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May 29 20:56 UTC 2002 |
re: 8
i have to agree that happycore is stupid, and clubs are good for hearong the
music but not listening to it. I put in techno to headphones all the time
to really listen to it. And in the right 'frame of mind', small parties with
friends at houses and such always seemed the best way to enjoy techno music,
better atmosphere to enjoy the music and be comfortable if you are E'd up.
the first time i ever listenend to techno was at a house party in Inkster,
and it happened to be the first time I tried E....and i was hooked...the music
of course, i dont use E anymore, but i still love the music......
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orinoco
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response 12 of 40:
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May 30 03:16 UTC 2002 |
During the short time at the start of the year when I went clubbing more
often, it got to the point where I'd recognize a lot of tracks, and I'd have
my favorites, but I still didn't know what artists I liked. It's hard enough
figuring who does that one song you keep hearing on the radio. It's damn near
impossible to figure out who made a techno track, unless you go clubbing with
someone who already knows that sort of thing and buys the new records as they
come out. I think I'd be much more of an active techno fan if it weren't like
that.
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jaklumen
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response 13 of 40:
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May 30 07:59 UTC 2002 |
resp:8 and resp:11 So what the hell is happycore?
resp:7 Go back and look.. it's going to take some persuasion.
resp:11 hmmm.. I must have been totally in the wrong frame of mind. I
experienced techno at an actual club. The "rave" I went to was pretty
intense-- the club had disco balls, moving blue lights, black lights,
TV screens and a smoke machine already, but they added a professional
laser light show, overhead projector cartoons, a new Bose system with
wicked bass.
Y'see, though drugs have been muy, muy tempting-- in an atmosphere
like that, I'd rather just be naturally juiced up. See, at the time,
I was untreated for manic-depressive.. uh, never mind =) but really,
I think X and other club drugs are just bad juju.
resp:12 Yeah, I totally understand that-- sometimes it's taking a
risk, I guess. See item:50 again. You just buy a compilation track
and hope it's good, but yeah, that's generally not the big way to go.
When MTV did amp, that was helpful, but they killed the show.
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mynxcat
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response 14 of 40:
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May 30 13:49 UTC 2002 |
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jaklumen
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response 15 of 40:
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May 31 00:09 UTC 2002 |
I doubt it. MTV was trying to spark interest by showing connections
between hip-hop and techno, which very well may have been: Techno was
developed in Detroit (I fail to remember where this was mentioned in
the previous music cf, and who said it), and the Motor City also
developed the hip-hop sound in the States quite a bit.
The show was playing Run-DMC and some other early hip-hop when they
weren't doing other techno like the Chemical Brothers or what have you.
I don't know about VH1-- it's part of the original MTV Networks and is
part of Viacom (Nickelodeon is a part, too-- it was a little Canadian
station sucked up into MTV Networks in the early days of cable). It
will depend largely on when the youth market drops the genre (i.e. the
Millenials/Gen Y) and when the young adult/middle-age market decides
they must keep it (i.e., Generation X).
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emblem
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response 16 of 40:
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May 31 00:55 UTC 2002 |
re: 13 Clubs are a great place to listen to it, and depending where you
are, the better the place to do it. There are clubs the music, and then there
are clubs for hooking up. You can hook up with someone at any club, but some
places emphasize a 'rave' experience more than others. There are places also
that are techno but extacy just wouldnt work, others do.
Also, if you have comcast, the dance and origens music channels are a good
place to start to listen and find a few songs in techno you like, write it
down , and then research on other songs or cds by that artist, or look for
mix and compilation cds that have that song, i found two cds lately that way,
and they are relly good techno. Easy way to find new music at home while
cooking on the grill or something while looking for some new music.
and then dare i say it...sex, extacy, and the right techno music, heh. that
could be a whole new topic item in itself.
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jaklumen
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response 17 of 40:
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May 31 03:47 UTC 2002 |
Noo. I'm sure X is ultimately bad juju.
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jonny290
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response 18 of 40:
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Jun 1 02:55 UTC 2002 |
Heh. I've got to put in my two cents here.
I'm a drum and bass DJ out of Fayetteville, AR. You guys can listen to
what I do at http://www.djjonny290.com - (lynx friendly :)). Anyways,
i'm pretty much totally immersed in electronic music. Current styles
and DJ's i'm into:
Any drum and bass, really. US stuff is getting better every day.
Detroit stuff is neat. Richie Hawtin is amazing. So's Carl Cox.
IDM is my closet passion - i'll put on my Squarepusher vinyl when I
feel like going nuts, hehe.
And drugs are bad at parties, mmmkay? heh. We're fighting a constant
battle to keep parties legal, and this is the single biggest factor
against us.
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mynxcat
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response 19 of 40:
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Jun 1 15:37 UTC 2002 |
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craammy
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response 20 of 40:
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Jun 1 16:30 UTC 2002 |
I am not much of a techo-music fan myself, though there has been times when
I have heard some techo music ( while radio surfing, in clubs etc. ). However,
I suggest you listen to the first album by Kraftwork, which features the song
"we are the robots" - that album was one of the first to bring techno music
to the forefront and still remains one of the best. The Robert Miles album
that features the "dream" song is also kind of good.
Au revoir
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foobaz
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response 21 of 40:
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Jun 1 17:53 UTC 2002 |
Re: 13 Happycore short for happy hardcore. Hardcore is a type of techno
that is very fast (around 180bpm) and usually has a bass drum on every beat.
It's usually less subtle and more powerful than other types of techno. So
happy hardcore is a powerful hardcore beat with really cheesy melodies and
women singing in high voices about love.
The bass rhythm is really nice when you're on E, as is the cheesy melody and
cheesy singing, so E-tards usually like it a lot. The genre doesn't get much
respect from jaded ravers, it's mostly the 15 year old candy kids who listen
to it.
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mynxcat
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response 22 of 40:
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Jun 1 18:11 UTC 2002 |
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jaklumen
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response 23 of 40:
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Jun 1 23:15 UTC 2002 |
resp:20 I don't think German band Kraftwerk was defined as techno
when it first started-- I believe they were instead labeled
as "programming." I can't be sure when the label "techno" came into
existence, because I don't remember hearing of it until the early 90's.
Techno as far as I know had its roots in Detroit and was an outgrowth
of early hip-hop. See the previous music conference.
The UK/Europe sound, on the other hand, was known as "New Wave,"
generally. Without a doubt, Kraftwerk had a strong influence on some
of the main New Wave groups. Philip Oakley of the Human League
explains on the audio liner notes of "The Very Best Of" that founder
Martin Ware was inspired by Kraftwerk's "Transeurope Express" and
Donna Summer's "I Feel Love". Daniel Miller, longtime producer to the
band Depeche Mode, explained in a VH1 "Behind the Music" interview
that he was looking for a pop group with a Kraftwerk-like sound and
found it in DM.
Kraftwerk fused dance beats with many of their hits on the 1991
recording "The Mix." This may have been a response to the technopop
sound they later inspired, but it is rather premature to say their
first album brought techno to the forefront. Their sound was merely a
forerunner and their primary recordings lacked the danceable beat that
defines techno.
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cyklone
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response 24 of 40:
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Jun 2 04:23 UTC 2002 |
Kraftwerk has been identified by many of Detroit's techno pioneers as
being one of their prime inspirations when they created the techno sound.
But you are right in the sense that when Kraftwerk was making the albums
that provided that inspiration, the sound Kraftwerk created was not
called techno.
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jaklumen
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response 25 of 40:
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Jun 2 08:01 UTC 2002 |
Right. I can understand that. It's pretty apparent Kraftwerk
influenced a lot of groups and a lot of electronica genres.
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