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richard
can grex offer usenet again? Mark Unseen   May 13 21:45 UTC 1999

Once upon a time, a long time ago now, grex offered usenet.  Today, for no
particular reason, I ran !tin again, and got "usenet is down-- may be back
in several months"  That message is obviously several "years" old now.

Why not consider bringing back usenet?  a usenet interface on the web page
(like dejanews has) would be a feature very attractive to potential
users/members.  I remember when grex had usenet (tin or trn) it was
unbearably slow, but grex itself is so much faster now that a good usenet
interface would probably work well.  grex could even have its own usenet
conf, alt.grex or something.

Is it feasible for grex to offer usenet again?
70 responses total.
scg
response 1 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 13 22:03 UTC 1999

Usenet used to be relatively tiny -- Grex got its news feed over a 2400 bps
modem that wasn't connected most of the time.  That's changed drastically.
At work (at one of SE Michigan's larger ISPs), we shut down our news server
a few months ago and outsourced it, since it didn't make economic sense to
run our own news server anymore.  When we shut the news server down, our full
news feed was taking the equivalent of something approaching two full T1s,
24 hours per day.
pfv
response 2 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 13 22:11 UTC 1999

        Richard is apparently unaware of the number of times this topic
        and that question have been asked, let alone answered.

        Bad enough mailing-lists exist, Uselessnet went to hell about the
        time everyone and his cousin could afford a comp.

        Personally, I'd like to see that message replaced with something  
        less misleading.


dang
response 3 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 14 01:20 UTC 1999

Asside from that, a full usenet feed would take about as much disk as we are currently useing for our whole system.
rcurl
response 4 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 14 04:54 UTC 1999

Usenet is accessible on the web through any search site. 
ryan
response 5 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 14 13:08 UTC 1999

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rcurl
response 6 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 14 15:09 UTC 1999

Reading it on the web is via a search, so only responses containing your
keywords are listed. It is still mostly crap, though...predominantly
FS items. I used to participate but most items eventually become more
chaff than wheat, with newcomers asking the old questions again and
again. Hmmm...sort of like some items here...
pfv
response 7 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 14 15:32 UTC 1999

        You know... hmm...

        Hey, JAN? I wonder if, especially with BackTalk, a FW could cobble
        up a special "item" that becomes the FAQ for the conference?

        Take all the Original, pertinent queries: make an itemized list;
        the items hyperlink right to the item.

        It sounds almost like 'browse', but.. Perhaps it could vary
        somehow?

        Also be nice if we could regex search this stuff. From the shell,
        _sometimes_ 'find' works wonders.. I don't believe I saw a webside
        equivalent today..
remmers
response 8 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 14 16:00 UTC 1999

If Grex were to offer anything approaching a full news feed, the storage
and internet link overhead would be enormous. (The burden on the link
would come not from users *reading* news, but rather from the thousands
of messages per day flowing *in* over the link.)

Re Pete's resp:7 - Conferences are searchable on the "webside". Go to a
conference homepage and click on the "Search the conference" button.
pfv
response 9 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 14 17:07 UTC 1999

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