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mijk
What happened to Grex's Gopher server? Mark Unseen   Apr 4 12:44 UTC 2017


I have been told, Grex had an awesome Gopher server at one time. What happened
to it? I see there is a Gopher client, and it points to quux.org ( think?)
rather than alot pointing to floodgap's gopherhole. It would be nice to have
a Gopher server here, maybe like SDF offering gohper hosting? Een better
though, imo - would be a shared gopher server. A collaborative gopherhole.
Is anybody still interested in gopher here? What do you think of a grex
gopher server? 

79 responses total.
tonster
response 1 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 14:08 UTC 2017

I see it as one more thing we don't have time to administer myself, and
I'd question if we could even build it at this point, considering the
overall state of the system.
mijk
response 2 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 15:37 UTC 2017

Hi tonster,
There seem to be two questions now:
How difficult would it be to administer a gopher server here on grex?
What is the overall state of the system?
tod
response 3 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 03:18 UTC 2017

I gave up gopher holes.
cross
response 4 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 14:31 UTC 2017

The overall state of the system is bad, frankly. We're many
years behind on upgrading the basic OS and frankly we want
to move to FreeBSD anyway.

But I'm not sure what the appeal of a gopher server would be?
Aside from a certain "retro" thing, Gopher's pretty much gone
by the wayside....
tod
response 5 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 15:59 UTC 2017

I'd be more interested in a usenet newsreader like back in tha day
kentn
response 6 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 00:38 UTC 2017

  /usr/local/bin/slrn
papa
response 7 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 09:27 UTC 2017

There is a community of Gopher fans keeping the protocol alive, though it is
admittedly a very small niche. In addition to its retro appeal, Gopher allows
very lightweight clients and servers and appeals to people who think the WWW
was spoiled by embedded graphics. It also serves as a darknet for sharing
files off the Web.
mijk
response 8 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 18:17 UTC 2017

Gopher does have much going for it, if people knew about it. It concentrates
your mind on the material you are reading, or searched for; instead of the
fluff, which is alot of hip web design. The web is as much about what it looks
like as what it is; where really content 'should' be king. 
I think having another option, other than WWW, for hypertext content on the
internet is a good thing. I can see how the web killed gopher, but i really
think many people are tired of the web when it comes to certain types of
material. Look at me: someone who switched on a computer fro the first time
in 2007 ( i think?), and here i am beating the path less trod (these days).
I am eternally grateful nobody showed me how to use the PC i bought when i
got internet and had to get aquanted with computers; otherwise i would maybe
be stuck in a Micros*ft controlled matrix, where venturing off any well trod
paths is punishable by excommunication.
Anyway: one nice thing would, along with a webpage, to have a gopher page,
and or, a gopher blog. :) 
I'm not asking directly for this right now; just thought it a nice idea to
have the topic broached, and wondered how feasable it was for the future.
Gopher hasn't died, it really is still here. (when i get round to setting up
my own gopher server, it would be nice if it could be listed on Grex.org's
much better gopher hub ;) 
kentn
response 9 of 79: Mark Unseen   Apr 7 00:25 UTC 2017

See if you can run it now.  I don't know if it will connect to anything
or.
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