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bruin
Recorded Music Delivery Formats Past & Present Mark Unseen   Jan 1 18:58 UTC 1999

In this item, we hope to continue the discussion on formats of recordings for
music and other audio which caused drift in the Jeopardy item (Winter Agora
#12).  This includes commercial recordings past and present, more modern
digital techniques, etc.  Okay?  Okay, so let's start.
126 responses total.
keesan
response 1 of 126: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 19:18 UTC 1999

For those of us who did not read the Jeopardy item can you summarize?
bruin
response 2 of 126: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 20:26 UTC 1999

Thank you sindi.

The most recent Jeopardy clue was about a company and their much-maligned
music delivery system.  A number of people had responded to this clue (in the
form of a question, of course), but it was beginning to drift into a
discussion of 8-track, Muzak, digital audio tapes, etc.  Therefore, I offered
to enter an item (which you are reading right now) to continue discussion of
recorded music formats without confusing those who had been playing the game.

Any other questions?
steve
response 3 of 126: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 20:32 UTC 1999

   My favorite form of putrid music delivery has always been the 8 track
cartridge.  I remember the first time I heard it, playing some rock thingy
which I knew, and I could hear the flutter on the tape.  The person doing
the demo said there wasn't any such thing and continued on trying to sell
people on 8 track players.  As far as I know, the only music that still
comes out on 8 track is come country, for the trucker industry.  Given how
noisy a lot of trucks are, I suppose it doesn't matter what you use to
make sounds.
tpryan
response 4 of 126: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 20:50 UTC 1999

        Ampex once came out with a 12" floopy audio delivery system.
Record-o flex or somehting like that.  Designed for radio stations
to compete with the use of cartridges, the floopies probably had 
half the cost of cartridges, but probably about one tenth the life
span.  I forget if the time available was as much as a long record,
like four minutes, for more in the range for announcements--two
minutes maximum.  Anybody ever spot one of these audio white elephants?
happyboy
response 5 of 126: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 20:53 UTC 1999

i had never heard of that till now...:)
steve
response 6 of 126: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 21:19 UTC 1999

   Thats really bizare.  If you can spot a picture of one on the web,
I'd love to know about it.  I've never heard of this format before.
Were they akin to 8" floppies only bigger, something like that?
djf
response 7 of 126: Mark Unseen   Jan 1 23:23 UTC 1999

Off the top of my head I can think of the following.  Please correct
me if I forgot or misremembered something...


Analog Physical
  Master
    Wax cylinder
    Wax disc
    Acetate disc
  Playback 
    Wax (and/or Acetate?) cylinder
    78 RPM discs
    45, 33 1/3 RPM pressed vinyl discs
    20" 'Vitaphone' movie sound discs (strange pre-optical
                                           movie soundtrack format)

Analog Magnetic
  Wire
  Magnetic tape
    Master/high end
      1" 32 track (?, extrapolating here...)
      1/2" 16 track
      1/4" 2/4-track open reel
    Playback
      1/4" 4/2-track open reel
      8-Track
      Philips cassette
      Radio production "carts"
      
Digital
  Tape
    ADAT 16 track (professional, I'm not really familiar with this)
    DAT
  Optical
    Compact Disc (CDDA)
    DVD
  Other disc
    MiniDisc
    Computer HD with various encoding formats

Other
  Optical Motion Picture Soundtrack

  

krj
response 8 of 126: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 01:17 UTC 1999

I was fond of the Elcasette, which basically stood for "Large Cassette;"
it was a large tape cassette, maybe twice or three times the size of the 
Phillips cassette we know and love.  Like the 8-track it was designed to 
run at a higher speed, but it eliminated the tape-loop constrution which
caused so much grief for the 8-track system.  It didn't fly in the 
market, of course, because the problems with Philips cassette were 
being dealt with.
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