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davel
Conference Request item Mark Unseen   Aug 20 01:32 UTC 1998

This item is the place to propose new conferences, and to discuss such
proposals.  Go for it!
143 responses total.
davel
response 1 of 143: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 01:36 UTC 1998

I'm going to paste in the text from an item that was entered to propose a new
conference, for a start - also the responses so far to it:

> Item #20 entered by John S. Wolter(jsw) on Wed Aug 19 14:18:32 1998
>  Request for "space" conference from Ann Arbor Space Society
> 
>  After speaking with Jan Wolter and EMailing Scott Helmke I want to 
>  request a 'space' topic under public issues section.  Organization has 
>  existed in Ann Arbor for over 20 years in one form or another.  We 
>  communicate with people all over the world, a conference form should 
>  make issue discussion easier.
>  
>  I don't know the complete process, so if you could let me know what is 
>  needed I will galdly supply what I can.  I understand a 'witness' is 
>  needed to manage the discussion form, I will be willing to be listed to 
>  fulfill that role.
>  
>  Thank you for your assistance.
>  
>  John Wolter, President
>  Ann Arbor Space Society
> 
> 2 responses total.
> 
> #1 David Cahill(dpc) on Wed Aug 19 16:25:54 1998:
>  Great, jsw!
> #2 Dave Lovelace(davel) on Wed Aug 19 21:31:30 1998:
>  The procedure is:
>  1. Enter a request in the "conference requests" item in coop.  Hmm.
>     Looks like none got created when coop was restarted.  So start one.
>     (It helps to have them collected.  If discussion gets complicated,
>     a separate item such as this  one here can help.)
>  2. If there are any suggestions or criticism, refine your intentions
>     accordingly.  (That includes saying "That's not what I had in mind"
>     & sticking with your original proposal, of course, if you wish.)
>     Out of this discussion may come fairwitnesses & all kinds of helpful
>     ideas.  Occasionally (very rarely) it becomes obvious to the proposer
>     that such a conference is unneeded or won't work, & things don't
>     go further.
>  3. Assuming you're still interested in going ahead with it, after (say)
>     a week or so, say so publically.  Email cfadm to get things moving.
>     Info you may want to have ready:
>     - conference name, & brief description for the "help conference" text
>     - the login banner that is seen each time a conference member
>       joins to read updated items.  See existing cfs for samples.
>     - the logout screen (if any) which displays when users leave your
>       conference
>     - the bulletin which users see when they *first* join your conference
>       (or when it's changed) (if any)
>     - login names of fairwitnesses (beyond you, in this case, if any)
>  4. Once the conference is created, enter an initial item so that
>     others can access it.
cmcgee
response 2 of 143: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 02:54 UTC 1998

Does "space" fit in the existing "science" conference?  Or is it such an
active topic that it needs its own conference?  

Or is there already a "public issues" conference that he wants to enter a
"space" item in?  

I'm not quite clear whether this topic is meant to be an addition to Grex's
current conferences for currently active Grexers, or is being suggested as
a way to draw in an entirely separate audience of newcomers.
rcurl
response 3 of 143: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 05:10 UTC 1998

That hardly matters. With 15,000 "currently active grexers", the more ways
they can be active the better. If it draws new users, that's fine too. Why
does it matter? 

There are "space" related items in the science cf, but "space" is not
just science. I would be interested in knowing all the topics the
space fanciers talk about, but I suspect that a lot of them are outside
the thrust of scientific studies and activitiers, per se.

jsw
response 4 of 143: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 13:34 UTC 1998

Rane, your absolutely correct.  Space covers business, social, 
environment, communications, government, politics, security, cultural, 
technology, and yes science issues.  For example imagine the positive 
impact a space based worldwide realtime environmental monitoring system 
but how to make it happen?  Discussion may generate a way to make it 
happen.

All kinds of people, from all kinds of backgrounds, and from around the 
world are interested.  While space related newsgroups do exist well 
known problems of spam and following discussion threads is that media's 
problem.  This approach promises to solve these problems and be 
accessible to even the simple text web browsers.

We are convinced that we would like to give this a try this year and 
see what the results are.
davel
response 5 of 143: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 16:08 UTC 1998

John, BTW, if there are items in other conferences which are relevant and
interesting enough, the FW (you) can link them in, and they just appear in
their existing entirety as items in your conference.  (Additions made in
either conference show up both places - everyone is in fact accessing the same
material, just from two (or more) different directions.)

I also think that this is a very good candidate for its own conference. 
There's definitely some overlap, & I'd think a number of linked items would
be appropriate, but it's got both its own set of related issues and to a good
degree its own constituency.  To whatever degree this specific conference
would have its own specific, organized constituency (in the Ann Arbor Space
Society), that's a plus - but there are lots of folks already on Grex likely
to take an interest.
jsw
response 6 of 143: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 16:25 UTC 1998

Dave that's interesting.  I was wondering what was meant by 'linking'.  
The cross conference connections can be built I assume as more content 
is placed in the items.  So, as I understand links as it makes sense 
the links can be added or substracted.

I also took sometime this morning to page through a virtual community 
book which this software begins to create.  The future of this kind of 
community seems unlimited.  More software to write but you know the 
saying, "Another day another k".

aruba
response 7 of 143: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 16:49 UTC 1998

I will participate in the space conference, and it sounds like a great idea.
mta
response 8 of 143: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 11:54 UTC 1998

This is a great idea, John!  I've been curious about the Ann Arbor Space 
Society for years -- even talked Jean Barnard out of a couple of old 
newsletters earlier this summer.  I'd love to participate in this 
conference!
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