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greycell
mp3s or mp4s [-^A^-] r they so cool... Mark Unseen   Jan 27 16:36 UTC 2003

hi to all
i have been a musicaholic for the past eight years.
and from new kids on the block to the cradle of filth, i have listen to many
pop, rock, heavy metal, death metal and country music. but the problem with me
is that i don't encourge mp3s. where as my friends they spread the mp3s like
viruses and any new album for which i may be spending hell lot of money they
will copy it for free or download it from interne. but i feel somehow these
mp3s are not good cause most of times they are spurious and not decoded well
from cds  soemtimes they are not of full length also we don't know which band
they belong to and info like this

so i just want to know general opinion of all grexers


regards
mukesh
27 responses total.
mynxcat
response 1 of 27: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 16:52 UTC 2003

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albaugh
response 2 of 27: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 19:38 UTC 2003

Unfortuantely (?) with the obsolescence of the vinyl disk ("record"), there
is no equivalent of the "45", which had a popular tune, and a "throw-away"
on the flip side - the 45 was as way to buy just the hit song you wanted. 
If you liked the artist(s) well enough, you would spring for the LP.

(For those of you who do not know either 45 or LP, ask your parents! :-)
mynxcat
response 3 of 27: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 22:23 UTC 2003

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cyklone
response 4 of 27: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 01:20 UTC 2003

Why do you think 3-4 dollars for a single is too much?
neighter
response 5 of 27: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 21:27 UTC 2003

If you want a band to survive, support them, buy their CDs. But if you only
like 1 song, or if the band puts out mostly junk, then sure, download the MP3.
I think the whole piracy thing is going to trim a lot of fat out of the big
record companies. It's also gonna make concert tickets go up in price. Bands
will have to jack up prices elsewhere to survive. 
mynxcat
response 6 of 27: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 21:50 UTC 2003

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cyklone
response 7 of 27: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 00:01 UTC 2003

I'm not sure you understand how the music business works or its history. 
In the old days a "single" (45 rpm record) also cost more than the pro
rata share of its contribution to the album (although you actually got two
songs, including the "b" side). So there is a historical basis for the
pricing you dislike. You would buy a single CD for the same reason people
*paid* for 45s in the past:  because they liked a single song enough to
want a separate copy and/or because they didn't like the entire album.
Gee, the more things change, the more they say the same. 

I also wonder how many "lifestyles" of musicians you have truly witnessed. 
Just because a band is on a record label, it doesn't mean they are all
living like Madonna. A band considered to have potential may get
$150,000-$500,000 for their first record. This money is divided among
however many members are in the band, less a cut for management, and
usually it is the ONLY money the band will ever see from a given record. 
Five figure deals are more common for bands with narrower appeal, and for
some genres the payment is under $10,000. So your comment about "survival"
is flat out WRONG.  Many bands on record labels spend their time on the
road living out of a van and eating whatever they can find when they pull
over for gas or a gig. I seriously doubt you would enjoy such a lifestyle
and almost certainly you would consider yours superior by comparison.

The only way most bands make money is by touring or selling *lots* of
records (it also helps to be the songwriter, who often makes more than
his/her non-writing bandmates). Since the music industry tends to screw
musicians on single royalties I'm not going to argue too strongly that
you are directly stealing money from the artist. However, the only way
artists gain some degree of financial or creative control is to show good
sales. When you steal a single you are denying a musician a "mark" that
should be reflected as a sale. 

There may be a lot of good arguments to be made against record companies; 
your post makes none of them. And to somehow delude yourself into thinking
the average signed band leads an enviable lifestyle is to utterly ignore
reality. 

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