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jep
proposal to open the membership Mark Unseen   Feb 10 19:25 UTC 2013

Proposal: Open the membership, to allow all users who can be validated
to be full members of Grex and for their votes to count in all elections.

Discussion: Dan Cross has suggested this in the agora conference.  My
intention is to propose what he has suggested.  If he suggests changes
to the wording of the proposal, I will almost surely them.

The justifications for requiring dues are that the corporation needed
the money to pay the bills, and that a financial contribution allowed
for verifying the identity of the member.  Those things are not issues
any more.  A few years ago, there was a proposal where the votes of
non-paying members were counted and meaningful (or was it an election).
 It worked okay as I recall.
43 responses total.
kentn
response 1 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 21:02 UTC 2013

What by-law changes do you propose?
jep
response 2 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:12 UTC 2013

I have not gone through the by-laws to list the ones that need to be
changed.  Is there a definitive current set of the by-laws?  If you
search the WWW page, you eventually can come to a set that refers to 7
Board members and membership fees of $60 per year.

Meanwhile, I hope it is okay to start the process with a general proposal.
rcurl
response 3 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 05:17 UTC 2013

"money to pay the bills" is not an issue anymore? Has Grex no costs? That's
great, if true, but doesn't that mean no hardware repairs or upgrades?
kentn
response 4 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 12:45 UTC 2013

We have bills to pay periodically. And there is always the chance that
some repair is needed, even in new hardware.  At some point in the
future our situation might change.  It would not be wise to let our bank
balance run down significantly just because we (mistakenly) believe we
have no expenses now.
kentn
response 5 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 12:49 UTC 2013

Re: bylaws, what URL are you using, jep?  Here is what I see when I pull
up the bylaws on our web page (under Governance):

    ARTICLE 3:  BOARD OF DIRECTORS

  a.  The Board of Directors (BOD) shall consist of five individual
      members of Grex, and shall include a chairperson, a secretary, and
      a treasurer.

No SEVEN member board there.
rcurl
response 6 of 43: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 20:42 UTC 2013

In coop the previous bylaws (7 directors) is item 26 and the current bylaws
(5 directors) is item 325. 

Both versions do not say how officers are chosen, although saying three 
of the directors will be officers (chair, secy, treas). I suppose the 
implication is that they are chosen among themselves. However members 
can run for the Board with no intention of being officers. What happens 
then (perhaps, literally, nothing, as we seems to be the case)? Somehow 
the election process needs to ensure that there will be 3 potential 
officer candidates among the nominees. An alterntive is to have the 
Directors elect the officers from the membership, and not require that 
they be elected directors. If that is chosen, then it needs to be 
specified whether the officers do or do not have a vote on the Board 
(and the Directors only need to choose a chair from among themselves).
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