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mary
Dial-in Lines Mark Unseen   Apr 12 22:34 UTC 2010

The Board is considering dropping our last two dial-in lines.  Staff 
looked at usage recently and found a total of 30 minutes of connect time 
over a one month period.  The treasurer could tell us exactly what our 
AT&T bill comes to each month but I suspect it's something over $50.

Would anyone object to this service being discontinued? 
115 responses total.
kentn
response 1 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 00:20 UTC 2010

To add to this, there is at least one free alternative to dialing in to
Grex if we were to remove the phone lines.  For example, freedialup.org.

In the March 2010 Board meeting minutes, it is noted that (via a script
we used to use a long time ago which was run during the meeting to see
how much usage there was) there was 24 minutes of modem use in February.
This is practically nothing of all the hours of modem time available
that month (roughly 40,000 minutes in 28 days for one modem and twice
that for two modems--about 0.03 percent usage recorded).  We should be
able to run that script again and see what the usage was in March. I
don't know if we can go back in time, say 6 months to see if there is
any pattern to the usage.  Staff can tell us more about that.

If we do stop modem service to Grex, we should do at least a couple
things.  One is to warn people in advance so they can investigate the
alternatives and try them out.  Another is to publicize at least one
viable alternative for those who still use modems.  If we can give good
instructions on how to use that alternative, so much the better.

If we know who the modem users are, perhaps an e-mail could be sent
to them with this information, but at the very least, having the
information about the impending end of modem connections and the
alternative(s) should be in the MOTD and an agora conference item
in advance of the shutoff date.
kentn
response 2 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 02:45 UTC 2010

www.dialinfree.net is another free dial-in service, which has numbers
in Michigan.  There are others around the country, often limited to
regional area codes (such as freedialup.org).
tonster
response 3 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 21:30 UTC 2010

It's really a waste of money to keep them going for one or two users,
unless those users want to pay the bill. :)  Even if the bill is as low
as $50/mo, for 24 minutes that's over $2/minute we're paying for someone
to connect to grex. :)
kentn
response 4 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 23:22 UTC 2010

At one point, I'm sure we had enough people using them and enough
membership money coming in to cover the cost.  But this is obviously no
longer the case.  Since we have practically no money coming in right
now, it would make good sense to reduce expenses where we can reasonably
do so.  And of course, we'd like to do as little harm to meeting our
mission as possible while reducing expenses.
tonster
response 5 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 02:36 UTC 2010

At one time having just 2 lines would have produced 100% busy signals
too, but that time was about 15 years ago. :)
tsty
response 6 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 05:29 UTC 2010

  
please   LINK  t o agora !!
  
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