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jaklumen
The new FUNK item Mark Unseen   Jan 8 04:49 UTC 2002

Some of you may remember the funk item from the previous music cf.
It seemed to be the consensus that funk is dead, although I tend to 
doubt that-- I think funk just morphed into something else.

I'm sure that can be debated, but I do think it's notable that rap 
music has been strongly shaped by the particular genre.  For example, 
Wil Smith has listed funk music as a strong influence, and George 
Clinton has admitted publicly that a lot of his royalties in recent 
years have come from rap artists sampling his material.  Warren G's "G 
Funk Era" was just dripping with a particular funk style.  Ludacris 
uses a lot of funk, too, and "I've Got Hos in Different Area Codes" 
was a strong example.

If rap is said to have grown from urban poetry, then, is it possible 
that it shares a common root with funk?  Could be a stretch, but the 
fact that rap seems to use funk all the time seems like there is some 
connection and continuity.
26 responses total.
gelinas
response 1 of 26: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 05:02 UTC 2002

I remember where I first heard of rap:  In a music column in "Omni" magazine,
during either its (the magazine's) first or second year.  That is, in 1978.
At the same time, I was hearing "Bootsie's Rubber Band" nigh on every morning.
(The squadbay was divided into two-man cubes, but the dividers were only about
six feet tall.  What one person listened to, we all listened to.)  So I'd say
it obvious that they share roots.
happyboy
response 2 of 26: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 14:27 UTC 2002

george clinton is a cosmetologist...right?
flem
response 3 of 26: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 00:59 UTC 2002

Funk will never die!  :)
scott
response 4 of 26: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 02:42 UTC 2002

My understanding of rapping is that it came from the Jamaican "toasting"
practiced by dub/dancehall MCs.  The American adaption would of course be
based on funk, that being the state of dancable black music in the 70's other
than disco.  

George Clinton, being the smart guy that he is, figured out the sampling stuff
quite early on and set himself and his music catalog (apparently he redid some
of his own classics to gain ownership of publishing rights somehow) for
easy licensing and clearance.  When people wanted to sample his stuff, they
could do it without having to hire a bunch of lawyers and fight over it.  As
a result Clinton got paid and more exposure via samples in rap tunes.
cyklone
response 5 of 26: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 03:29 UTC 2002

I think the Lost Poets and Gil Scott Heron may have a claims to be rap roots
as well.
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