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johnnie
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Chips and Dip
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Nov 29 18:32 UTC 2003 |
My wife has decided that it's time for us to get a new computer; the one
we're using now is getting a bit pokey, particularly for the things we
use it for (or, rather, would like to use it for--in addition to the
ordinary stuff, we do a fair amount of digiphoto stuff, Photoshop,
PageMaker and other electronic publishing-type programs, and I wouldn't
mind playing some 21st century games occasionally). Back when we bought
our now-six-years-old PC, we had essentially three choices: the 133Mhz
Pentium, the 166Mhz Pentium, or the 200Mhz Pentium (we split the
difference and got the 166). Now there are Pentiums and Celerons of
numerous Ghz-ages, and a whole bunch of AMD chips with various
undecipherable monikers and mysterious clock speeds, not to mention the
new 64-bit AMD. How do I compare/choose amongst them all? Does clock
speed trump all? Are AMD chips "just as good" as Intel? How does, say,
an AMD Athlon XP 2700+ compare to an Intel Pentium 4 at 2.4GHz (or the
Pentium to a Celeron @ 2.5Ghz, for that matter)? As a practical matter,
will I ever really care that I got the P4 at 2.6Ghz instead of the
2.8Ghz? Will the new AMD 64bit chip change the landscape to the extent
that any 32bit chip I get now will be obselete a whole bunch sooner than
the old horse I'm riding now, and therefore I should go cheap on the
chip and and look to get a new PC three years down the road instead of
six? Any advice or opinions would be welcome...
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keesan
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response 1 of 18:
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Nov 29 19:17 UTC 2003 |
You can buy the parts and put something together yourself. It would be
cheaper to get a 1-2 year old motherboard than the latest one. They you could
afford to upgrade more often and be more up to date on average.
MCRI sells components and they are nice people. Or try eBay.
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mcnally
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Nov 29 19:56 UTC 2003 |
Unless you do a lot of gaming, you almost certainly don't need the
latest and greatest computer. Nearly anything on the market today
will be a huge improvement over what you're currently using and will
be acceptable for your needs.
> As a practical matter, will I ever really care that I got the
> P4 at 2.6Ghz instead of the 2.8Ghz?
Very unlikely, though you *might* notice a difference between a P4
system with a 300Mhz front side bus and a 533 Mhz front side bus.
> How does, say, an AMD Athlon XP 2700+ compare to an Intel Pentium 4
> at 2.4GHz (or the Pentium to a Celeron @ 2.5Ghz, for that matter)?
It's even more complicated than that. Thanks to differing bus and
RAM speeds, you can't even necessarily expect the same performance
out of two different 2.4GHz systems.
> Will the new AMD 64bit chip change the landscape to the extent
> that any 32bit chip I get now will be obselete a whole bunch sooner
> than the old horse I'm riding now, and therefore I should go cheap
> on the chip and and look to get a new PC three years down the road
> instead of six?
I think it's unlikely that the new 64 bit chips are going to be
fully embraced for a while but once they become the norm they will
have an effect on the software that gets sold. I wouldn't care to
predict a timetable for when they become dominant in the market,
however. But I'm generally in favor of going cheap anyway.
In my opinion, everyone focuses far too much on processor speed when
purchasing a computer system. An astonishingly high percentage of
the time that processor is idle anyway, waiting for input from you
or from peripheral devices. Most of the time *you* spend waiting
at the computer (unless you are highly atypical) will be waiting for
programs and data to load from, or save to, disk. I'm therefore
usually in favor of saving a little money on the processor and
spending it for a faster disk or better disk controller technology.
In any case when I buy a new computer I tend to prefer to put the
bulk of the optional money into performance peripherals that I may
be able to use in the next system -- high quality sound or video
cards (though video offerings seem to change faster than system CPUs
these days..), SCSI or SATA disk controllers, big fast drives, high
quality keyboard and mouse, etc..
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gull
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Dec 1 15:45 UTC 2003 |
Personally, I think if you're running Windows or Linux and doing general
desktop stuff -- word processing, web browsing, image editing -- the best
bang for the buck is adding RAM. RAM is really cheap right now and I
wouldn't buy anything with less than 256 megs. For typical desktop work
available RAM is more important than processor speed. (Within reason,
anyway. Above 512 megs you probably won't see an improvement unless you
edit large image, sound, or video files on a regular basis.)
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drew
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response 4 of 18:
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Dec 1 16:20 UTC 2003 |
With enough RAM, you could put stuff on a RAMdisk, improving performance even
further.
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mcnally
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Dec 1 17:34 UTC 2003 |
re #4: I find it's very rarely worth the extra effort to do that
these days..
re #3: I agree with gull that you should buy as much memory as you
think you could ever reasonably need and then buy half as much again.
Extra RAM probably is the cheapest and most effective thing you can
add to boost performance for most home or office usage.
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