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rcurl
Packet Radio Mark Unseen   Mar 24 06:31 UTC 1998

Packet radio is an error-free digital mode in which data are sent in small
"bursts", or packets, implemented by a computer program interfacing with a
radio transceiver. The packets contain both the information to be sent and
also "overhead" information used to route the packet and reassemble them
into their original continuous whole. The "web" operates as packet radio,
but it was invented for computer communication by radio amateurs many
years ago. 

97 responses total.
rcurl
response 1 of 97: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 06:34 UTC 1998

There will be a program and demonstrations on packet radio at the next
regular meeting of the ARROW radio amateur club in Ann Arbor on Wednesday,
8 April, starting at 7:30 p.m., at the Clonlara School. More information
about this can be found on the ARROW homepage at
http://www.cyberspace.org/~arrow/
daniboy
response 2 of 97: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 10:30 UTC 1998

Packet Radio is s Very PowerFull to be "INVISIBLE" on The NET !.
 




                                              73 de LZ5XK
mark1
response 3 of 97: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 15:30 UTC 1998

where is the arrow club HQ???
rcurl
response 4 of 97: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 19:39 UTC 1998

Check out http://www.cyberspace.org/~arrow/ - Actually, the club does not
have a "HQ", unless you mean the city, which is Ann Arbor.  They have a
station (radio room )in the basement of the Red Cross building (not yet
refurbished and operable since the collapsw of the radio tower and the
flood). The club will have its next meeting in September...watch the web
site for info in about mid August. 

eprom
response 5 of 97: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 00:57 UTC 1998

 hmmm....i've recently installed Linux redhat 5.1 in my box and
 read somewhere that linux is the only OS that has built in packet
 radio software...if somebody has managed to get it working in 
 your home computer can you tell me what you think of it. (verses 
 using the software made for win95/dos)
                                        -KC8BYL

rtg
response 6 of 97: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 18:49 UTC 1999

I managed to enable the AX.25 support on my Linux system, but I didn't
do much with it.  I was able to monitor traffic in the neighborhood, and
initiate connections, but I never figured out how to answer when someone
else requested a connection.  I also didn't get TCP/IP over packet
configured.   Now I've re-installed a new release of Linux, so I have to
start over.
troy
response 7 of 97: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 10:04 UTC 1999









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troy
response 8 of 97: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 10:06 UTC 1999

Hi, does anyone here know how to use tcp/ip over packet?
Sorry. I am attempting to get used to this.
goose
response 9 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 20:38 UTC 1999

I thought I read somewhere that connecting between a packet connection
and the internet was verboten.  Is this true?  

What are the practical uses of packet radio?
rcurl
response 10 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 22:07 UTC 1999

No, I've logged into the internet via a "gateway", although since you
are transmitting your password over the air it is not very secure.

Packet radio provides fast and *accurate* communications. For message
handling over short distances it is excellent - much better than by voice
or code, with operators having to write down what they hear. It is a very
useful mode for emergency communications. I used it once at a remote rest
station during a local bicycle race to transmit participant messages and
requests for provisions, etc: the data do not get garbled in transmission. 

Packet is also adaptable to what is called the Amateur Packet Radio
System, which can be used to transmit information from mobile operators
about location (determined by GPS) and other parameters. It has been used
in road rallys (even bicycle rallies) for keeping track on a map of the
location of all the participants. (I have not used this yet, but it is on
my lift of projects....)

omni
response 11 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 00:32 UTC 1999

  We use packet at the Hell of a Ride with limited success. Usually we can
park a packet station at a point where we have always had trouble with voice
and eliminate the problem. When we tried mobile packet, it was a consummate
failure because we couldn't find a reliable relay station to stay connected
with. We are learning our limitations as the years roll by. One of these times
we'll have the good sense not to do it at all. ;)

    I'm confident that you'll see it in action once again at OHR 2K.
jerome
response 12 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 22:31 UTC 1999

resp#10: I believe it's actually "Amateur Position Reporting System", and
it's also been used on balloon launches for tracking & recovery of the
payload.
rcurl
response 13 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 02:25 UTC 1999

Yeah..I was rotating APRS, ARPS, APSR,...in my mind, trying to recall. I
haven't done anything further toward setting it up for a while.
goose
response 14 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 20:38 UTC 1999

I need to learn more about packet...I keep hearing bursts of noise from
a local repeater (I forget the freq.)

If I got a terminal, a TNC, and a radio, how would I communicate with other
hams?  Do you give a digital CQ or do you really have to have something
setup ahead of time?
rcurl
response 15 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 21:36 UTC 1999

You set that up in your software, since all your packets have to be
identified with your callsign. You "listen"...and you can send to or
connect to another packet station. 

omni
response 16 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 21:55 UTC 1999

   All you really need is a TNC, a radio and a terminal.

   The TNC has firmware which is set prior to you going on the air, callsign
usually goes in first, and stays there. There are all sorts of settings you
have to do before you start, and each of the settings is determined by where
you live and how well you hear and are heard.

   Ideally, the radio should be a 25 to 50 watt output to ensure transmitting
capability. You should also have a good outdoor antenna, about 25 to 50 feet
off the ground so that you are heard as well as seen. There is nothing worse
than a packet station that is all mouth and no ears. I personally use my HT
but I always go through a friend's stronger powered station to make m,yself
heard. You will also learn what digipeating is.

   If you want Chris, I can show you my packet station and help take some of
the mystery out of it. Packet is really a fun mode and more people should do
it. Send me an e-mail.
omni
response 17 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 21:55 UTC 1999

  I'll even give you a terminal. Free.
gull
response 18 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 03:35 UTC 1999

Whether you need much power or not depends a lot on what the local packet
network is like.  I used to do fine with 5 watts from an HT, into a 5/8 wave
antenna on the roof.

There is some software now that lets you bypass the need for a TNC, if you
have a fairly modern computer with a sound card.  (You still have to wire
a circuit so the computer can trigger the radio's push-to-talk line,
though.)  I haven't played with any of this "software TNC" stuff, but it
looks interesting.
n8nxf
response 19 of 97: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 12:54 UTC 1999

I have a friend who might still have a TNC and mobile 2M radio that he
is looking to get rid of.  He also has other ham gear he wants to sell.
His asking prices were very reasonable, as I recall.  Let me know.
goose
response 20 of 97: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 19:05 UTC 1999

Jim, I'd like to see your packet setup sometime, thanks

David, I'm going to poke around the net for the 'software TNC' stuff, thanks.

Klaus, I may be interested in your friends gear, thanks.
gull
response 21 of 97: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 20:00 UTC 1999

The specific program I noticed is called 'Flexnet.'  I haven't had the
chance to tinker with it yet.
k8cpa
response 22 of 97: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 21:47 UTC 2000

Packet is dead, the 'net saw to that. 
\
at least here in detroit it is...

rcurl
response 23 of 97: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 21:53 UTC 2000

It isn't for emergency communication.
gull
response 24 of 97: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 05:25 UTC 2000

Yeah, the local packet network here in da UP fell apart because everyone
lost interest.  Now the only way to forward mail or bulletins in or out is
via the Internet, so what's the point?
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