response 1 of 98:

Nov 5 02:13 UTC 1997

*sigh*  More music that I should catch up on..and I have so very little
disposable income :(  Elaborate.. I am very aware Pink Floyd was doing far-out
stuff in the 70's, but how are they now?

response 3 of 98:

Nov 5 06:02 UTC 1997

  I doubt I'd really lump Steely Dan in with progressive rock, although
  I suppose I can see a couple of similarities.  

  I went through a big King Crimson phase when I first discovered them
  around seven or eight years ago.  I still like them and listen to their
  albums occasionally but have mostly moved on to other stuff for my more
  frequent listening and for the most part have been disappointed with the
  releases from the band's latest incarnation.  They're probably the only
  one of the mainline progressive rock bands that I ever really got into.

  I've got a recommendation for a great album most people haven't heard
  (or ever heard *of* or seen, for that matter..)  It may or may not fall
  into the "progressive rock" category but I think most people would like
  it who like that sort of music..  The album is called "Spirit of Eden"
  from the British band Talk Talk [some of you are probably thinking --
  "didn't they have a couple of forgettable synth-pop hits in the 80s?"
  well, yes, but this album Isn't Like That.  Trust me.  The bad news is
  that it's probably only available as an import but I really do recommend
  it (but do not give a blanket recommendation for all of their stuff..)]

response 5 of 98:

Nov 5 20:44 UTC 1997

Yeah, I haven't had much of a chance to listen to Pink Floyd, but what I have
heard (bits and pieces of 'The Wall') I really liked.  I am interested in the
classical roots of many of these artists.  I often wonder just who they
are drawing stuff from.  It strikes me that the likes of Stravinsky, Ives,
and Briton influence them more than Bach or Mozart.  Note the 'more than';
I'm not saying that progressive rock artists weren't influenced at all by
them, just not as much... <Cricket goes off to mumble something under his
breath.  Ramble Ramble>

response 7 of 98:

Nov 6 02:21 UTC 1997

Tef, you are *borrowing* my The Wall. Tomorrow. You have no choice dear. (I
bought this cd after listening to 30 sec. of it that Dan put on a mix tape.
I figured that if I liked the 30 sec. that much, the rest of it should be
fine. And It was. <smile>)

response 9 of 98:

Nov 6 17:42 UTC 1997

Actually I believe Bob Ezrin helped write a great deal of the Wall with
Roger.  The studio legends are that many of the guitar solos and such
on the record weren't even played by Gilmour but by one of Ezrin's many
oft-used studio cats.  It is well known that Ezrin uses lots of anonymous
studio cats on albums which he works, but this fact was extremely downplayed
for the Wall.

response 11 of 98:

Nov 6 19:51 UTC 1997

   i've never been a real big floyd fan.

response 13 of 98:

Nov 6 21:08 UTC 1997

_The Final Cut_ was actually material culled from _The Wall_ sessions. 
Personally, although I like _The Wall_ a great deal, _The Final Cut_ is even
more impressive to me, mainly because it is more concise.
 
Gilmour, himself, does lots of studio work (Bryan Ferry, Pete Townshend, Kate
Bush...), so it wouldn't surprise me that he worked with other studio
musicians on projects, including _The Wall_.
 
I prefered Floyd before Waters left, as he's a brilliant lyricist.  It seemed,
however, that his desire to pursue cetain projects was pursued with such zeal
as to turn off the other members, so it's probably for the best that they
parted ways.  I do think that the other members gave Waters' material a little
more solid ground, and Waters gave their music good intellectual flight, so
I miss their group material.
 
One of albums that displayed a comfortable mix of their personalities is
_Meddle_, which I highly recommend.  They shared a lot of the songrwiting and
musical responsibilities, there, and it seemed that they got along much
better, then.

response 15 of 98:

Nov 6 22:29 UTC 1997

It's interesting, I'm not much of a Floyd fan either but I do get mistaken
for one a lot, because I wear a Division Bell t-shirt that I got used for a
costume in a play I was in.  As it turns out, Division Bell is widely hated
among Pink Floyd fans...how was I to know?  I still like the shirt though.

I'm definitely a King Crimson fan, although also not as fanatical as I once
was.  They were the first band that I was a real fan of, and the first actual
interesting rock music that I listened to, and there was a while when Crimson
albums vastly outnumbered the rest of my CD collection.  This is no longer
the case, but I still do like them, especially _Starless and Bible Black_ and
_Beat_.

Marillion and Fish, I've picked up some of teflon's fanaticism for.  I've
heard - and loved - Marillion's album _Script for a Jester's Tear_, and a few
Fish songs.  Yet another band that I should look into more, but lack of time
and money.

response 17 of 98:

Nov 7 22:59 UTC 1997

Haven't heard Lizard...(this conversation sounds mighty familiar, actually)...
Yeah, _Beat_ is the first one I heard, and still what immediately springs to
mind when I think of King Crimson.  _Starless_ I hated at first, except for
Fracture, but it really does grow on you.  Or on me, at least.

response 19 of 98:

Nov 8 00:53 UTC 1997

I ain't everyone :P

response 21 of 98:

Nov 8 04:15 UTC 1997

 re #19:  give it time..

 I certainly can't serve as a counter-example to Ken's postulate
 and believe that it makes a certain amount of sense..

response 23 of 98:

Nov 8 08:43 UTC 1997

Dan, I consider myself a serious Pink Floyd fan, and I don't despise _Division
Bell_ (of course, I've never heard it).  ;->