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Kurt is comatose Mark Unseen   Mar 5 16:23 UTC 1994

For all of you who care, Kurt Cobain the lea singer of Nirvana, is, since I   
last heard, in a coma. What d'yall think about it? Do you care? Do you think he
deserved it? Do you love Nirvana? Oh well...
61 responses total.
beng
response 1 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 17:30 UTC 1994

Break out those Pearl Jam CDS and listen to them at full volume ...
kentn
response 2 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 17:34 UTC 1994

Yeah, I heard he woke up.  Some people are rejoicing, some are lamenting
the fact.  What happened to Kurt to put him in a coma?  
facelift
response 3 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 17:36 UTC 1994

It is said that he fell into a coma do to an overstressed body, lots of
champagne and barbituates.
orinoco
response 4 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 19:23 UTC 1994

Tommy, you might consider typing return every 70 characters or so--it will make
your responses so much more readable!
other
response 5 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 19:54 UTC 1994

I was gonna say, "Well, there goes lollapalooza," but if he woke up, then maybe
not...
tnt
response 6 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 20:55 UTC 1994

  Another example of what I call 'auto-Darwinism.'
steve
response 7 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 00:09 UTC 1994

   I kinda understand what Tim means.  It was certainly rather stupid
what he did, but perhaps others (like, the kids who buy the majority
of their CDs) will see what a loosing proposition drugs are.
rogue
response 8 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 02:00 UTC 1994

I like Nirvana and buy their CDs (and indirectly support Cobain's drug
habits, I guess). However, Cobain deserves whatever he gets because he
is an adult and makes his own decisions. If he dies tomorrow because
of an OD, that's his *choice*. 
davidtg
response 9 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 04:23 UTC 1994

well no one can say it wasn't an informed decision.  If he dies
I feel no pity, it was his own decision.
scg
response 10 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 04:33 UTC 1994

Yes, it was his own decision.  Still, as a society, we have to examine why
people make that kind of decision.  We will always have people using drugs
no matter what we do, but I believe we would have a lot fewer if people were
taught real facts about drug use, rather than a bunch of stuff that is 
obviously propaganda.
other
response 11 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 05:34 UTC 1994

There is so much more than just teaching the real facts about the drugs.
There is also the developing undercurrent of despair, resulting primarily from
the pressures to achieve so that you can spend more money and have all the
goodies that you see the folks on TV having, and the realization that many of
us will *never* have those things simply because we haven't had the luck and/or
the opportunities/tools to use.
aaron
response 12 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 14:43 UTC 1994

Yeah.  Poor Kurt will *never* have a lot of money, or those goodies the
folks on TV have....  No wonder he uses.  :*
other
response 13 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 17:42 UTC 1994

There is also the "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" thing...
rogue
response 14 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 22:25 UTC 1994

#11: So drugs are for the self-pitying? You surely jest...

carson
response 15 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 6 22:49 UTC 1994

the way I understood it, it was an accidental overdose, i.e., he wasn't
being recreational about it. If I remember, the reason he was taking 
whatever he OD'd on was because he was fighting pneumonia or something.
jamie
response 16 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 00:01 UTC 1994

You know, drugs are sort of an IQ test.  ODing on them, I mean.  After all, 
you never hear about insects dying of drug ODs.  Except pesticide, and then it
wasn't their fault anyways.  So, anyone who uses cocaine, marijuana, LSD, etc,
must have a lower IQ than your common cockroach.  Right?
park
response 17 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 02:51 UTC 1994

poor JimBob,
scg
response 18 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 05:37 UTC 1994

Then again, the cocroach probably isn't smart enough to figure out where to
get the drugs.  I tend to think that drug abuse is probably a lot more on 
other environmental factors, other that just "IQ."
other
response 19 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 05:49 UTC 1994

        re#14:  The phrasing of your response leaves me wondering what it was
        that you were trying to communicate.  Try again?

        re#16:  One of the great problems we have with the idea of legalizing
        drugs is that those of you who have been suckered by the propaganda
        have not learned to make a distinction between *use* and *abuse*.
        We tend to make that distinction with alcohol, attitudes and education
        about it are still fuzzy.  Yes, we teach the law, which makes a clear
        distinction in the case of alcohol between drinking and drunk, but
        that distinction is not really the issue.
tnt
response 20 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 06:11 UTC 1994

 And the only time a user might realize he or she is an ABUSER is after the
fact (if at all).
other
response 21 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 06:15 UTC 1994

Tim, what's your point?  Are you saying there *is* no difference between use
and abuse?
tnt
response 22 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 02:43 UTC 1994

 If you use to escape reality, certainly.  And that's why people use illicit
drugs.
rogue
response 23 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 03:00 UTC 1994

#19: In #11, you're essentially saying that people use drugs because they
     cannot achieve the sucess or have the money and babes they see on
     TV. So they despair and use drugs. My question sarcastically asked
     if drugs are for the self-pitying. In other words, how many other
     excuses can you come up with why people use/abuse drugs? 
other
response 24 of 61: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 06:50 UTC 1994

I'm not making excuses for anybody.  People will do what they will do, but
the pressures to which they are exposed on a regular basis affect those
decisions.  I'm basically saying that if we as a society work to alter some
of those pressures, we can thereby best affect the demand for illicit drugs.
        Again, there must be made a distinction between use and abuse.  I use
as an example the drug television (known to make people chronically stupid).
It can be used for entertainment purposes with little recognizeable
detrimental effect, but it can also be abused, causing among other things
an abysmally fantastic view of reality (take for example the constant reports
of how people in other countries think *all* Americans live, on the basis of
our exported tv sitcoms).
        People will probably always use drugs for entertainment.  Entertainment
is by it's very nature escapist.  Does that mean that because drug use is
escapism, that we should ban drugs?  That's not only stupid, it defies logic.
        (By drugs I mean the recognized chemicals such as pot, lsd, caffeine,
nicotine, alcohol, etc. as well as tv, and in some instances, perhaps also
recorded music, but then who am *I* to judge?)
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