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remmers
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Classical Music Boosts IQ! You Too Can Be an Einstein!!
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Oct 15 12:31 UTC 1993 |
The Los Angeles Times reports that according to recent research at the
Center for the Neurobiology of Learning and Memory at the University of
California, listening to the music of Mozart can result in significant
but short-lived IQ boosts. Scientists found that 10 minutes of
listening to Mozart's Sonata for Two Pianos in D raised college
students' IQ by up to 9 points. However, the IQ increase was
temporary, dissipating within 15 minutes.
The researchers theorize that complex classical music enhances abstract
reasoning by reinforcing complex patterns of neural activity, and that
the simple repetitive rhythms of such contemporary music as New Age
jazz and grunge rock may have the opposite effect of obstructing
abstract reasoning. They also indicate that making music, rather than
just listening to it, may have a more permanent effect on intelligence.
However, the newspaper article doesn't indicate whether they have
experimental evidence for these speculations.
Interesting results, suggesting further research possibilities.
Composers could be ranked according to their IQ enhancement effects.
If the researchers' reasoning is correct, I would expect J.S. Bach to
rank highly also, and Bartok. But what about the 19th-century
romantics like Schubert, Schumann, Mendelsohn, and Tchaikovsky? Are
there measureable differences in IQ enhancement effects of composers
who were close contemporaries and wrote in similar styles -- are Haydn
and C.P.E. Bach as good as Mozart? What about the scale of the work --
is a big symphony as good as chamber music, or worse, or the same?
I'm thinking of installing an IQ Booster Switch underneath my desk.
When I'm trying to solve a particularly tricky logical or programming
problem and seem to be stuck, I'll just hit the booster switch with my
foot and start up a Mozart tape. That should help.
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rcurl
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response 1 of 133:
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Oct 15 13:28 UTC 1993 |
What's the minimum length of a selection required for 90% of the limiting
effect? You don't want to waste time hyping your intellect.
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aaron
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response 2 of 133:
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Oct 15 15:45 UTC 1993 |
A good question. Also, does this hold true evern where a harpsichord is
used in the recording? ;)
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gregc
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Oct 15 16:38 UTC 1993 |
What *I* would like to know is: How in the hell do you go about measuring
a subjects IQ in under 15 minutes?? Every IQ test I've heard seen, heard
about, or taken required at least 1/2 hour. And IQ testing is *not* an
exact science. I would suspect there is at *least* +- 5 points of error
in any IQ test. This all sounds pretty shaky to me.
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davel
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response 4 of 133:
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Oct 15 17:44 UTC 1993 |
I presume they measured some kind of problem-solving ability, making many
small measurements over a long period of time.
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danr
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response 5 of 133:
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Oct 15 23:46 UTC 1993 |
I wonder what Elvis does to a person's IQ?
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davel
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response 6 of 133:
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Oct 15 23:54 UTC 1993 |
The evidence is pretty clear, isn't it?
(ssf)
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kentn
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response 7 of 133:
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Oct 16 00:34 UTC 1993 |
If you really don't like classical music and find it annoyingly grating,
does it still improve your IQ?
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steve
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Oct 16 03:21 UTC 1993 |
I find this extremely weird. Thats not to say that it couldn't
be real, but I'd like to know how they measured the intelligence
increase beofre and after.
I think eating certain foods before a test would have a much greater
impact on testing scores, overall.
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rogue
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Oct 16 03:47 UTC 1993 |
I have no scientifc proof, but I think Led Zeppelin increases my IQ by at
least 15 to 20 points. Red Hot Chili Peppers also boosts my IQ by at
least 5 to 10 points...
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tsty
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response 10 of 133:
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Oct 16 10:02 UTC 1993 |
LZ - exactly! Some Marshal Tucker, Alabama, Greatful Dead, ...
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robh
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Oct 16 13:01 UTC 1993 |
Yes, I think part of the experiment should have been repeating everything
with a group who preferred "grunge" or "New Age" or some such. I find
that I can think much better with musicI *like* in the background.
This reminds me of one little old lady who grew plants. She hooked up
some speakers in two different rooms, one playing classical (which she
liked), the other playing acid rock. (Which she hated.) After a while,
the plants "listening" to classical thrived, while the others withered
and died. (Yes, she took care of both sets the same way.)
Her conclusion? Plants prefer classical. (Insert own joke here.)
My hypothesis? The plants were reacting to what *she* liked. Let's
try that one again with a hippie and see what happens.
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polygon
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response 12 of 133:
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Oct 17 23:01 UTC 1993 |
Probably she spent more time in the room with the classical music,
watered the plants there more often, etc.
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tnt
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response 13 of 133:
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Oct 18 01:43 UTC 1993 |
I wonder what 'rap' music does to IQs...
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gregc
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response 14 of 133:
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Oct 18 05:54 UTC 1993 |
Re: "I wonder what 'rap' music does to IQs...."
Answer: Imagine drilling a small hole in your forehead, inserting an
eggbeater, and twirling in around in there for an hour and a half.
That should give you a rough idea.
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i
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response 15 of 133:
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Oct 18 15:32 UTC 1993 |
#14 sounds like some really old duffer getting steamed about Elvis.
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tnt
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response 16 of 133:
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Oct 19 02:49 UTC 1993 |
Sounds rather "RACIST!" too.
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rogue
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response 17 of 133:
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Oct 19 09:43 UTC 1993 |
#14: Or, placing one's head on the concrete and dropping a 5000lb iron
ball on the head from a height of 1000 feet.
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gregc
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response 18 of 133:
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Oct 20 03:11 UTC 1993 |
Ah.... Warner Brother's physics! Isn't it wonderful!
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rogue
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response 19 of 133:
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Oct 20 16:51 UTC 1993 |
Dr. Dre, in an interview on MTV, confessed that he's doing "it" for the
money and that's his main concern. He's doing it so poor little black kids
will spend the $14 or whatever to buy his CD while they barely have enough
food to eat at home.
One of the member of Arrested Development was ridiculing the gangsta rap
scene because all the damn songs are alike and all the lyrics are pretty
much the same. The gangsta rap songs are more generic than pop songs. Get
a drum beat, toss in some offensive, mindless lyrics about sex and violence,
and you have yourself a real cool, gangsta rap song.
(Do those who look aup to rap artists as black leaders look foolish yet?)
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freedog
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response 20 of 133:
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Oct 30 23:23 UTC 1993 |
Sounds like Dr. Dre and rogue are a lot alike. :]
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rogue
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response 21 of 133:
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Oct 31 18:28 UTC 1993 |
True. But no poor black kids look up to me as a social role model.
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power
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response 22 of 133:
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Nov 2 23:47 UTC 1993 |
I don't think you've listened to that much hard rap, then, Jemmie... I
find it ***MUCH*** more innovative and interesting than the pop scene--
not that that's saying much (or anything)... :)
My friend brought over his Easy-E tape this weekend, and listened to it
about 4 times over, so I can say with certainity that it's more than a
drum beat and some offensive, mindless lyrics about sex and violence..
I liked it, myself, although I WAS getting a bit tired of it the fourth time
or so... but then, I can't complain... I'm the same way, with some of my
music....
At least the hard rap is saying something: in my experience, the pop
rap/synth tends to be a drum beat and some samples with some mindless lyrics
about nothing at all.... :)
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tnt
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response 23 of 133:
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Nov 3 04:53 UTC 1993 |
And if you read the newspapers, you'll see that (some) 'urban youth' get
the message from rap music loud & clear...
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power
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response 24 of 133:
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Nov 3 06:50 UTC 1993 |
Hoolie, you're only being so obnoxious because the 'urban youth' in question
are primarily black. There have been some less-than-perfect role models
for white youth, at times in the past, notably the 60s... yet Jim Morrison
is now a hero, to many, though the lyrics tend to be drunken ramblings, and
some of them are rather pro-drug/sex/what-have-you... not to say that I
don't like the Doors, I do. I think that popular music and the pop-music
culture have always had a message that has been frowned upon by the more
conservative in society--the Jazz Age, the 60's, and now are good examples...
To expect 'urban youth' (your euphemism for black youth) to listen to
church hymns isn't any more realistic to expect the same of white youth.
How do you feel about the grunge movement, then, Hoolie? I see you
frequently spouting off in a tongue-in-cheek way about rap, etc--I've never
seen you mention grunge. Yet, Nirvana, really a very mainstreamed group,
comes out with songs like 'Rape Me', etc (did they really cut 'Moist Vagina'?)
, has a singer who was and/or is a heroin addict, and so forth. Is this
any more a positive message for urban youth (using the more general term)
--such as myself?
The music is not the problem, though it might reflect the culture of the
inner city, to an extent. Btw, Hoolie, have you ever listened to any of this
music for an extended period of time? You are very quick to condemn it--have
you experienced it enough to have the right to do this?
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