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krj
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Steeleye Span, and their relatives and followers
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Apr 2 05:43 UTC 1996 |
This item spins off the discussion of Steeleye Span which began in the
"Mood Music" item in Agora. For those who weren't around in their
heyday: Steeleye Span was the most commercially successful of the
British bands which set traditional folk songs and tunes to
rock instrumentation.
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krj
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response 1 of 37:
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Apr 2 05:44 UTC 1996 |
<< spring agora #29 <---> music #186 >>
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krj
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response 2 of 37:
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Apr 2 06:04 UTC 1996 |
First, let's answer the tacky materialistic questions posed by void.
Of the 11 canonical albums released by Steeleye Span's 1970s
lineups, seven are available on CD in the USA:
HARK! THE VILLAGE WAIT PARCEL OF ROGUES **
PLEASE TO SEE THE KING NOW WE ARE SIX **
TEN MAN MOP ALL AROUND MY HAT
BELOW THE SALT
That leaves four unavailable:
COMMONERS CROWN STORM FORCE TEN
ROCKET COTTAGE LIVE AT LAST
COMMONERS CROWN has been issued in Australia, but that edition
is generally not available in the USA.
PARCEL OF ROGUES has some sound glitches; the UK edition (BGO label)
of NOW WE ARE SIX is preferred over the USA edition because the UK
version has the nearly-seven-minute version of "Thomas the Rhymer."
These are generally stock items at Schoolkids, at an exorbitant
price of $17. (Note there are $2 and $3 coupons in the April issue
of CURRENT.) Elderly Instruments in Lansing is likely to be much cheaper.
Here's a list of the reunion albums; all are in print on CD in the
USA except as noted.
SAILS OF SILVER (Mercifully unavailable on CD anywhere)
BACK IN LINE
TEMPTED AND TRIED
TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT, LIVE
THE COLLECTION, LIVE (UK only)
TIME (US release in mid-april, review coming soon)
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gregc
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response 3 of 37:
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Apr 2 07:27 UTC 1996 |
I'm also a fan of Steeleye Span. Other groups that would fit this genre
(classic folk set to rock) are Pentangle, Jethro Tull's _Songs from the
Wood_ album, and to a lesser extent Clannad, and Battlefield Band.
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beeswing
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response 4 of 37:
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Apr 2 07:28 UTC 1996 |
...sigh....
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krj
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response 5 of 37:
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Apr 2 14:46 UTC 1996 |
??? sigh ???
Slvrwolf had been under the impression that the band had broken up.
Steeleye Span did break up in 1978; thus the title of the final
canonical album, LIVE AT LAST. The first reunion, 1980, produced the
awful album SAILS OF SILVER, which had original songs instead of
traditional material.
The band got back together in 1986 and they have been working on a part-time
basis ever since. There were a few personnel changes through the 80's.
Drummer Nigel Pegrum left, and I don't know what became of him.
Tim Hart, who with Maddy Prior had been the heart of the band since
its founding, went to live on Majorca and gave up music for photography.
Bassist Rick Kemp, who married Maddy Prior, gave up playing due to
RSI problems.
So the core of the band is now singer Maddy Prior, guitarist Bob
Johnson, and fiddler Peter Knight. Bob Johnson has been doing a
university degree in psychology, and Maddy Prior has had small kids
to raise, so the band has been unwilling to take on a USA tour for
many years. But they've played quite regularly, usually in the
summer festival season, in Britain.
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slvrwolf
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response 6 of 37:
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Apr 2 15:33 UTC 1996 |
This is just too cool. I recently hooked another friend of mine on Steeleye
SPan and he's going to be ecstatic to hear that they're together again. And
I'm also sure he'll like to know about the CD info. Thanks!
<and, if there's any news about a US tour, please let me know!!!!>
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krj
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response 7 of 37:
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Apr 2 18:03 UTC 1996 |
We'll get there! I can't type in everything I know at once!! :-)
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orinoco
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response 8 of 37:
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Apr 2 20:00 UTC 1996 |
if it were not for the $17 price tag, I would definitely get myself one f
these albums...they sound great!
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krj
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response 9 of 37:
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Apr 2 22:43 UTC 1996 |
Heh. How much would *YOU* pay for a Steeleye Span album.
BUT WAIT!!! :-)
Seriously, let me know and I'll keep my eye on the used album bins.
Er, used CD bins that is. I can also check for used vinyl.
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void
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response 10 of 37:
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Apr 3 06:40 UTC 1996 |
Thanks for the info, krj. If anyone is going to Australia, and would be
interested in bringing back a copy of _Commoners' Crown_, *please* send me
some e-mail. Soon as I get the bills paid, I'm off to Schoolkids to obtain
at least _Parcel of Rogues_ and _All Around My Hat_. It's a real shame that
_Rocket Cottage_ is unavailable.
<void starts saving for concert tickets>
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aruba
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response 11 of 37:
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Apr 3 07:11 UTC 1996 |
Hmmm, this sounds like a band I might like, though I have never heard them
before. I was just about to do a BMG order, and I notice that they have
one Steeleye Span album in their catalog, "Steeleye Span: Spanning The Years"
I didn't see this one in krj's discography, so I'm guessing it's a "best of"
kind of deal. Anybody know if this would be a good introduction to the band?
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slvrwolf
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response 12 of 37:
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Apr 3 14:46 UTC 1996 |
aruba....does it give any kind of listing as to song titles? I could judge
better that way.
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aruba
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response 13 of 37:
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Apr 3 14:54 UTC 1996 |
It lists a few:
Gaudete, To Know Him Is To Love Him, Rave On, Lady Diamond, London, etc.
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krj
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response 14 of 37:
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Apr 3 21:17 UTC 1996 |
I wanted to dig out my copy of SPANNING THE YEARS before offering
any judgements. It's a two-CD set, 35 songs. I can think of three
reservations which might apply:
1) If you're not into folk music, you may not appreciate how
acoustic the first nine tracks are -- four of them are acapella!
2) There are ten songs from the reunion years, including three
from the awful SAILS OF SILVER album. Some of them, though,
are live versions of old songs, and Steeleye's little-known
recording of "Tam Lin" is at least interesting.
3) The odd-and-weird tracks are not well chosen. "Rave On," the
acapella version of the Buddy Holly song, is available on three
other CDs. "To Know Him Is To Love Him" (the Phil Spector song)
is unremarkable except for the saxophone solo by David Bowie;
I'm sure that's the only reason that track made the compilation.
I'd much rather have seen the inclusion of "General Taylor"
and "The Boar's Head Carol," both of which are very rare.
(But this point matters only to fanatics. *ahem*)
But, we're measuring against some imaginary perfect anthology.
A sizable sampling of Steeleye's most well-known and popular
songs are here: the two minor hit singles "Gaudete" and "All Around
My Hat," plus "The Blacksmith," "Lovely on the Water," "Alison Gross,"
"Cam Ye O'er Fra France," "Thomas the Rhymer," "Long Lankin,"
"New York Girls," "Fighting For Strangers."
There's also a good essay from Maddy Prior on the history of the band.
I'd go for it, especially if you can get a good record club price.
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krj
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response 15 of 37:
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Apr 3 21:54 UTC 1996 |
Here is the Steeleye Span tour info, cribbed from the DIRTY LINEN
magazine's web page. Note that the closest site to Ann Arbor on this
list is Pittsburgh. If I hear of anything closer -- Chicago perhaps? --
I'll let you know. But historically, Steeleye's best market has always
been the East Coast.
Steeleye Span
May (30) The Birchmere/Alexandria, VA 703/549-5919
(31) Thtr. of Living Arts/Philadelphia, PA
June
(1) Carnegie Lecture Hall/Pittsburgh, PA
(3-4) The Bottom Line/New York, NY 212/228-6300
(5) Somerville Thtr/Somerville, MA
bookings: 617/969-0810
WWW: http://members.gnn.com/concerted/home.htm
WWW: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~caveman/Steeleye
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aruba
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response 16 of 37:
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Apr 4 06:46 UTC 1996 |
Thanks for the review, Ken.
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void
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response 17 of 37:
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Apr 5 07:08 UTC 1996 |
Thanks again, krj. The only bit of Steeleye Span trivia that I can offer
is that Peter Sellers played the ukelele and did some background vocals on
"New York Girls."
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bru
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response 18 of 37:
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Apr 5 16:14 UTC 1996 |
I like Steeleye Span, so does my wife.
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jor
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response 19 of 37:
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Apr 5 22:57 UTC 1996 |
Did they have anything that got airplay that even a non-fan
would remember?
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krj
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response 20 of 37:
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Apr 6 15:45 UTC 1996 |
Probably not in the USA. "Gaudete" and "All Around My Hat" charted in
England.
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davel
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response 21 of 37:
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Apr 6 21:08 UTC 1996 |
When _Parcel_of_Rogues_ was new, some tracks got a lot of airplay on WPGU in
Urbana for a while. I suspect this wasn't all that unusual. We're not
talking Top 40 or anything, I admit, but that was *my* first introduction to
them. (This is also ancient history to a lot of you, I realize ...)
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response 22 of 37:
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Apr 8 01:55 UTC 1996 |
Well, Steeleye was my introduction to the primal obsession of my old
age, and I still love them. I even (don't look, krj) liked Sails
of Silver a lot. (Why is it everything *I* like is never going
to make it to CD? I ask
you, is this fair?) I can recall sitting in a rocking chair, nursing
Rhiannon , and singing along to "Little Sir Hugh" and "Sir James the
Rose".
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krj
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response 23 of 37:
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Apr 9 00:38 UTC 1996 |
Well, poot. Elderly Instruments isn't that good on Steeleye Span CD
prices; they want $14 for most of the Shanachie releases.
You can do that well at Schoolkids with a good sale or coupon.
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slvrwolf
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response 24 of 37:
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Apr 9 13:52 UTC 1996 |
We're young, we'll adjust...or maladjust, as the case may be.
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