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krj
Steeleye Span, and their relatives and followers Mark Unseen   Apr 2 05:43 UTC 1996

This item spins off the discussion of Steeleye Span which began in the 
"Mood Music" item in Agora.  For those who weren't around in their 
heyday: Steeleye Span was the most commercially successful of the 
British bands which set traditional folk songs and tunes to 
rock instrumentation.
37 responses total.
krj
response 1 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 05:44 UTC 1996

   << spring agora #29  <---> music #186 >>
krj
response 2 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 06:04 UTC 1996

First, let's answer the tacky materialistic questions posed by void.
 
Of the 11 canonical albums released by Steeleye Span's 1970s 
lineups, seven are available on CD in the USA:
  HARK! THE VILLAGE WAIT         PARCEL OF ROGUES **
  PLEASE TO SEE THE KING         NOW WE ARE SIX   **
  TEN MAN MOP                    ALL AROUND MY HAT
  BELOW THE SALT

That leaves four unavailable:
  COMMONERS CROWN                STORM FORCE TEN
  ROCKET COTTAGE                 LIVE AT LAST

COMMONERS CROWN has been issued in Australia, but that edition 
is generally not available in the USA.

PARCEL OF ROGUES has some sound glitches; the UK edition (BGO label)
of NOW WE ARE SIX is preferred over the USA edition because the UK 
version has the nearly-seven-minute version of "Thomas the Rhymer."
 
These are generally stock items at Schoolkids, at an exorbitant 
price of $17.  (Note there are $2 and $3 coupons in the April issue 
of CURRENT.)   Elderly Instruments in Lansing is likely to be much cheaper.

Here's a list of the reunion albums; all are in print on CD in the 
USA except as noted.
 
  SAILS OF SILVER    (Mercifully unavailable on CD anywhere)
  BACK IN LINE
  TEMPTED AND TRIED
  TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT, LIVE
  THE COLLECTION, LIVE      (UK only)
  TIME               (US release in mid-april, review coming soon)
gregc
response 3 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 07:27 UTC 1996

I'm also a fan of Steeleye Span. Other groups that would fit this genre
(classic folk set to rock) are Pentangle, Jethro Tull's _Songs from the
Wood_ album, and to a lesser extent Clannad, and Battlefield Band.
beeswing
response 4 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 07:28 UTC 1996

...sigh....
krj
response 5 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 14:46 UTC 1996

??? sigh ???
 
Slvrwolf had been under the impression that the band had broken up.
Steeleye Span did break up in 1978; thus the title of the final 
canonical album, LIVE AT LAST.  The first reunion, 1980, produced the 
awful album SAILS OF SILVER, which had original songs instead of 
traditional material.
 
The band got back together in 1986 and they have been working on a part-time 
basis ever since.  There were a few personnel changes through the 80's.
Drummer Nigel Pegrum left, and I don't know what became of him.
Tim Hart, who with Maddy Prior had been the heart of the band since 
its founding, went to live on Majorca and gave up music for photography.
Bassist Rick Kemp, who married Maddy Prior, gave up playing due to 
RSI problems.
 
So the core of the band is now singer Maddy Prior, guitarist Bob 
Johnson, and fiddler Peter Knight.   Bob Johnson has been doing a 
university degree in psychology, and Maddy Prior has had small kids 
to raise, so the band has been unwilling to take on a USA tour for 
many years.  But they've played quite regularly, usually in the 
summer festival season, in Britain.
slvrwolf
response 6 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 15:33 UTC 1996

   This is just too cool. I recently hooked another friend of mine on Steeleye
SPan and he's going to be ecstatic to hear that they're together again. And
I'm also sure he'll like to know about the CD info. Thanks!

   <and, if there's any news about a US tour, please let me know!!!!>
krj
response 7 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 18:03 UTC 1996

We'll get there!  I can't type in everything I know at once!!  :-)
orinoco
response 8 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 20:00 UTC 1996

if it were not for the $17 price tag, I would definitely get myself one f
these albums...they sound great!
krj
response 9 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 22:43 UTC 1996

Heh.  How much would *YOU* pay for a Steeleye Span album.
BUT WAIT!!!  :-)
Seriously, let me know and I'll keep my eye on the used album bins.
Er, used CD bins that is.  I can also check for used vinyl.
void
response 10 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 06:40 UTC 1996

   Thanks for the info, krj. If anyone is going to Australia, and would be
interested in bringing back a copy of _Commoners' Crown_, *please* send me
some e-mail. Soon as I get the bills paid, I'm off to Schoolkids to obtain
at least _Parcel of Rogues_ and _All Around My Hat_. It's a real shame that
_Rocket Cottage_ is unavailable.

   <void starts saving for concert tickets>
aruba
response 11 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 07:11 UTC 1996

Hmmm, this sounds like a band I might like, though I have never heard them
before.  I was just about to do a BMG order, and I notice that they have
one Steeleye Span album in their catalog, "Steeleye Span: Spanning The Years"
I didn't see this one in krj's discography, so I'm guessing it's a "best of"
kind of deal.  Anybody know if this would be a good introduction to the band?
slvrwolf
response 12 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 14:46 UTC 1996

aruba....does it give any kind of listing as to song titles? I could judge
better that way.
aruba
response 13 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 14:54 UTC 1996

It lists a few:

Gaudete, To Know Him Is To Love Him, Rave On, Lady Diamond, London, etc.
krj
response 14 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 21:17 UTC 1996

I wanted to dig out my copy of SPANNING THE YEARS before offering 
any judgements.  It's a two-CD set, 35 songs.  I can think of three
reservations which might apply:
 
1) If you're not into folk music, you may not appreciate how 
   acoustic the first nine tracks are -- four of them are acapella!
 
2) There are ten songs from the reunion years, including three 
   from the awful SAILS OF SILVER album.  Some of them, though, 
   are live versions of old songs, and Steeleye's little-known 
   recording of "Tam Lin" is at least interesting.
 
3) The odd-and-weird tracks are not well chosen.  "Rave On," the 
   acapella version of the Buddy Holly song, is available on three 
   other CDs.   "To Know Him Is To Love Him" (the Phil Spector song)
   is unremarkable except for the saxophone solo by David Bowie;
   I'm sure that's the only reason that track made the compilation.
   I'd much rather have seen the inclusion of "General Taylor"
   and "The Boar's Head Carol," both of which are very rare.
   (But this point matters only to fanatics.  *ahem*)
 
But, we're measuring against some imaginary perfect anthology.
A sizable sampling of Steeleye's most well-known and popular 
songs are here: the two minor hit singles "Gaudete" and "All Around 
My Hat," plus "The Blacksmith," "Lovely on the Water," "Alison Gross,"
"Cam Ye O'er Fra France," "Thomas the Rhymer," "Long Lankin," 
"New York Girls," "Fighting For Strangers."  
 
There's also a good essay from Maddy Prior on the history of the band.
I'd go for it, especially if you can get a good record club price.
krj
response 15 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 21:54 UTC 1996

Here is the Steeleye Span tour info, cribbed from the DIRTY LINEN
magazine's web page.  Note that the closest site to Ann Arbor on this 
list is Pittsburgh.  If I hear of anything closer -- Chicago perhaps? --
I'll let you know.  But historically, Steeleye's best market has always
been the East Coast.
 
Steeleye Span

May (30) The Birchmere/Alexandria, VA 703/549-5919
(31) Thtr. of Living Arts/Philadelphia, PA
June
(1) Carnegie Lecture Hall/Pittsburgh, PA
(3-4) The Bottom Line/New York, NY 212/228-6300
(5) Somerville Thtr/Somerville, MA
bookings: 617/969-0810
WWW: http://members.gnn.com/concerted/home.htm
WWW: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~caveman/Steeleye
aruba
response 16 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 4 06:46 UTC 1996

Thanks for the review, Ken.
void
response 17 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 07:08 UTC 1996

   Thanks again, krj. The only bit of Steeleye Span trivia that I can offer
is that Peter Sellers played the ukelele and did some background vocals on
"New York Girls." 
bru
response 18 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 16:14 UTC 1996

I like Steeleye Span, so does my wife.
jor
response 19 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 5 22:57 UTC 1996

Did they have anything that got airplay that even a non-fan
would remember?
krj
response 20 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 15:45 UTC 1996

Probably not in the USA.  "Gaudete" and "All Around My Hat" charted in 
England.
davel
response 21 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 21:08 UTC 1996

When _Parcel_of_Rogues_ was new, some tracks got a lot of airplay on WPGU in
Urbana for a while.  I suspect this wasn't all that unusual.  We're not
talking Top 40 or anything, I admit, but that was *my* first introduction to
them.  (This is also ancient history to a lot of you, I realize ...)
top
response 22 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 8 01:55 UTC 1996

Well, Steeleye was my introduction to the primal obsession of my old
age, and I still love them. I even (don't look, krj) liked Sails
of Silver a lot. (Why is it everything *I* like is never going
to make it to CD? I ask
you, is this fair?)  I can recall sitting in a rocking chair, nursing
Rhiannon , and singing along to "Little Sir Hugh" and "Sir James the
Rose". 
krj
response 23 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 00:38 UTC 1996

Well, poot.  Elderly Instruments isn't that good on Steeleye Span CD
prices; they want $14 for most of the Shanachie releases.  
You can do that well at Schoolkids with a good sale or coupon.
slvrwolf
response 24 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 9 13:52 UTC 1996

   We're young, we'll adjust...or maladjust, as the case may be.
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