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raven
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The World Music Item
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Jan 31 19:15 UTC 1996 |
This is the item for lovers of world music. Feel free to discuss
the virtues of "traditional world music" v.s. "ambient/trance/fusion,"
favorite world music cds, or upcoming world music performences.
Just for the record I am a big fan of Bachir Attar, King Sunny Ade,
Taraf de Haidoukes (Roumanie music), and Kocani Orkestra (Macedonian Brass
Band).
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rcurl
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response 1 of 206:
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Feb 1 06:26 UTC 1996 |
What's "world music"? Of any variety?
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scott
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response 2 of 206:
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Feb 1 12:37 UTC 1996 |
I tend to think of "world music" as international music, typically pop music
that is clearly influenced by a number of different cultures. Fer instance,
the reggae boom of the 80's.
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rcurl
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response 3 of 206:
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Feb 1 15:24 UTC 1996 |
Would the Jamaicans consider that "world music"? I'm trying to determine
if the term is an insular Americanism, or if it has a definition that would
apply everywhere. Intercultural? That would make jazz "world music",
wouldn't it?
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scott
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response 4 of 206:
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Feb 2 02:32 UTC 1996 |
Yup.
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scott
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response 5 of 206:
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Feb 2 02:34 UTC 1996 |
That needs a bit more elaboration. Reggae isn't "Jamaican folk music", but
a recently developed form that took a lot from British pop music.
then it got dragged to America and mucked with some more.
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raven
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response 6 of 206:
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Feb 2 07:00 UTC 1996 |
I used world music as an intentionaly broad term to get discussion
going. re#2 You are probably thinking of "world beat" which is modern
fusion based intercultural music. I would like this item to discuss
both modern and tradational music from non-europeon cultures.
re#3 Yes world music is a eurocentric term, but I couldn't think of a better
term off the top of my head to cover the topic at hand. I would say
that tradational bop/big band jazz is not world music because it has
developed in the U.S. There is however a lot of world music, say Ravi
Shankar, that is influenced by jazz. To make this all the more confusing
sometimes I find cajun music in the world section at record stores.
In short there is no concise definition of world music, my purpose in
starting the item was to discuss non-americam (non-europeon??), non-jazz,
non-western classical music from various cultures ranging from ambient
to 4,000 year Jajokan music. Clear now? :-)
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orinoco
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response 7 of 206:
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Feb 2 23:33 UTC 1996 |
It also tends to involve the bringing together of diverse elements from
multiple cultures. Though not always
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raven
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response 8 of 206:
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Feb 3 02:49 UTC 1996 |
Ummm I don't suppose anyone is interestred in talking about the music.
I could always start another item for tedious wrangling about the definition
of world music. :-)
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scott
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response 9 of 206:
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Feb 3 12:47 UTC 1996 |
I like it. I don't have a lot of it these days, since I feel like the big
"world beat" sound mostly died out a few years ago :(
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raven
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response 10 of 206:
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Feb 3 23:22 UTC 1996 |
Well world music is more than world beat ethnofusion. For example
two of my favorite world music cds Bachir Attar's "The next Dream" and
Taraf De Haidoukes's "Honourable Brigands" came out within the last year
and a half. It's true the world beat sounds of such people as King Sunny
Ade has died out a bit which is too bad.
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scott
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response 11 of 206:
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Feb 4 16:31 UTC 1996 |
Yeah. I'm not so fond of the new-agey kind of stuff like Basia, etc.
Guess I'm getting too old. >:)
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orinoco
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response 12 of 206:
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Feb 4 22:15 UTC 1996 |
Personally, the only music I listen to that could really be called "world
beat" is Angelique Kidjo, and that's still pretty mainstream....
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raven
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response 13 of 206:
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Feb 5 05:05 UTC 1996 |
Uh I don't like new age stuff either but i like tradatuional
jajokan music and tradational eastern europeon string and brass band
music. All of these forms of music have beem played for hundreds of
years before anyone thought up a catategory like "new age."
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orinoco
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response 14 of 206:
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Feb 5 22:59 UTC 1996 |
How mainstream can things get and still be talked bout here? Is Paul Simon's
"Graceland" legal? How about latin-influenced jazz? The sitar part in "Love
you to" or "The inner light"?
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raven
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response 15 of 206:
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Feb 6 05:17 UTC 1996 |
Uhh I don't think I put an obscurity requirement anywhere in #0.
I would be interested in hearing about any music of non western cultures.
For example I think Ofra Haza is quite cool and she's a *big* pop star
from I believe Egypt.
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raven
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response 16 of 206:
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Feb 7 19:22 UTC 1996 |
Hmmm still no substantive comments about the music. I'm not going
to have to forget my own item am I?
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krj
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response 17 of 206:
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Feb 11 01:55 UTC 1996 |
Maybe. I've been on a big Scandinavian binge the last few years.
(Hedningarna is probably the best band in the world! :-) )
I went through a big African phase back in the early 1980's.
I stumbled across a radio station in Washington D.C. which had a
Saturday night show playing lots of cool African music with
fast guitar lines. I would have my dad tape shows and mail them
to me; the DJ had a heavy accent, so I could never understand the
track announcements.
One day I happened to be playing one of my mystery tapes for Ellen,
an old girlfriend, who worked with lots of students from French-speaking
Africa. "Oh, that's soukous," she explained. Her African friends had
taken her out to a club show by Tabu Ley and M'bilia Bel, so that's
where I started.
Just in this week is the second album from the Swedish band Anitas Livs,
WILD WORLD WEB. The band is made up of three women who sing and
play percussion -- a lot more MIDI percussion on this second album,
which I think spoils the purity of the concept too much. But they're
still a lot of fun. They play three main types of songs:
American blues from the 20's (mostly Bessie Smith), Sami (Lapp)
folk music, and Indian classical and film music. A fun mix.
Hey, don't give up yet, Raven, I'll get back and write more.
I must have a crate or two of stuff which could go in this pigeonhole.
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raven
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response 18 of 206:
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Feb 12 16:01 UTC 1996 |
That band Anitas Livs sounds interesting. Where would one find
a tape/CD of their music? Please don't tell me it's a $25 import? Their
music from your description sounds similar to Annabouboula from Greece.
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krj
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response 19 of 206:
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Feb 20 08:25 UTC 1996 |
OK, I won't tell you it's a $25 import.... it's a $19 import, but you
have to call England to order it...
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krj
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response 20 of 206:
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Feb 24 07:06 UTC 1996 |
Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan from Pakistan, who some people claim is the world's
greatest singer, is getting a bit of airplay from his two duets with
Eddie Vedder on the DEAD MAN WALKING soundtrack. Ry Cooder on guitar.
I wonder if they'll ever try to take the concept to album length?
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raven
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response 21 of 206:
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Feb 29 21:11 UTC 1996 |
re #20 sigh, and they wonder why people tape other peoples CDs.
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raven
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response 22 of 206:
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Mar 2 20:32 UTC 1996 |
Yesterday I checked out an excelent web site for "world music" called
roots world and it's sister site hollow ear. It has many review of very
interesting sounding avant/world recordings. I could stay broke for years
if I continue to chech in there. I don't have the URL offhand but try
your friendly neighboorhood web searching engine to find these interesting
sites.
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krj
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response 23 of 206:
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Mar 28 18:14 UTC 1996 |
That would be Cliff Furnald's place.
The Swedish/Finnish band Hedningarna has now been packaged for USA
release. Their last two Swedish releases have been edited together,
and the band's name has been translated, so the US released is
FIRE by The Heathens. Hedningarna has been my favorite band of the last
six years or so: the material is based on folk styles, but they've
added lots of electric guitars, some home-made bagpipes and lutes,
and a ferocious percussion section. Plus two women singing in
sharp harmonies. There's a used copy of this at Encore Music --
at least there was last Saturday -- if anyone wants to gamble $8 on
my recommendation.
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raven
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response 24 of 206:
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Mar 29 00:29 UTC 1996 |
re # 23 Would that copy of the CD be in the world music section
at Encore???
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