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srw
Humor: Top Ten Reasons Why I Need A Pentium. Mark Unseen   Mar 10 06:07 UTC 1994

Top Ten Reasons Why I Need A Pentium.

10) Allows savings on winter heating bills.
 9) Has super neat "Intel Inside" logo!
 8) Fully supports all my 8088 programs.
 7) Will let me start planning on filling my OverDrive socket so
    it will go _real_ fast.
 6) I'm helping an Intel Engineer through school.
 5) I saw the Intel ads and I want to fly through my computer also.
 4) I want to get one before Dilbert does.
 3) Makes the girls think I'm a real computer stud.
 2) I have too much money to buy a PowerMac.
 1) Faster CPU helps get the annoying experience of running
    Windows 3.X over with quicker!

The above was distributed by 
matossian@aries.colorado.edu (Espacionaute Spiff domaine!),
a regular distributor of humor. I do not have any more
original attribution.

Obviously the writer had a bias. I posted it here  for its humor
value, hoping that a flame war won't break out.
51 responses total.
carl
response 1 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 14:13 UTC 1994

Most of those sound like reasons that I got a 486.  I *must* be
behind the times...   ;-)

bdp
response 2 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 11 04:35 UTC 1994

even with my bias towards PCs, I have to agree that the Pentium is too
little too late... Here's to the PowerPC chip. :)
robh
response 3 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 17:22 UTC 1994

I hate to say it, but that bit about running 8088 programs would
be a definite plus for me.
jep
response 4 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 00:36 UTC 1994

        I'm still running a 386/25, with SIPPS.  (SIPPs are like SIMMs on
stilts.)  And I have 2 MF/M hard drives.  Since I don't run Windows, my
computer never seems too slow.
bad
response 5 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 07:49 UTC 1994

        Spaceman Spiff?
bdp
response 6 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 15:28 UTC 1994

re#3:  The PowerPC can be tricked into running anything. :)
grey
response 7 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 07:44 UTC 1994

 
        And you thought microprocessors were too confusing ... here comes
the Alpha chip, the PowerPC ... lots of other new superscalar RISC, CISC,
and just plain risky other chips that all promise to run Windows ...
bdp
response 8 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 15:26 UTC 1994

It's really simple though when it comes to picking one of them out though:

The PowerPC is fast, and it's cheap, and it's simple.  Nothing else will
really be able to touch it (especially not with Apple & IBM both behind it)
remmers
response 9 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 15:48 UTC 1994

You may be right, but I'm skeptical of what you say in the parenthses.
Having one or more industry giants behind something does not guarantee
success.  Remember the Apple Lisa, or the PC Jr?
srw
response 10 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 16:16 UTC 1994

You're right, John, but Brian has the chip pegged.
It will change the way programs are written, too, as floating point
becomes far more accessible for ordinary purposes. Consider:
(1) All PPC chips will have it (no more of this 68LC040 stuff)
(2) The floating point performance is beyond belief.

F'rinstance, Adobe Photoshop avoided the use of floating point,
because of the performance penalty. No more penalty.
It is a high-end workstation chip for a few $100.

I'm going to go buy mine now.  :-)

omni
response 11 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 18:39 UTC 1994

 Does this mean that all this ancient stuff is finally obsolete? ;)

tsty
response 12 of 51: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 19:46 UTC 1994

Never!!
draven
response 13 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 00:19 UTC 1994

A friend of mine said the PPC will bomb, and RISC will never gain
popularity.  Well, hardware was never his thing.  He keeps on bragging how
the Pentium can do a 72-bit floating point in one cycle.  Well, since the
PPC can do 2 64-bit floating point per cycle, Pentium can kiss its butt
goodbye.  I don't think I'll upgrade for awhile, though.  I have a Centris
610 right now.  Upgrading will mean I lose speed and compatibility.  I
also get faster software that I have no use for.  Sure, I can get
SoftWindows for $500.  It allows me to run most DOS and Windows software
at 486SX speed.  Of course, I can get a 486SX/25 board for $400.  I'll
pass.  I do think, as I have all along (I even adapted it as a motto),
that RISC and the PPC is the future.

All hail the PowerPC!
Draven

bdp
response 14 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 01:03 UTC 1994

Your friend sounds like he's been buying into the mass computer media drivel.
[yes, the very same computer media that pushes MicroSoft products, talks about
 Bill Gates' genius, etc. :)]
srw
response 15 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 06:40 UTC 1994

Indeed. And draven, you are probably smart to wait at the moment.
A C610 is an excellent machine unless you need slots or a FPU.
An upgrade to the 68040 (with FPU) is now down to around $250.

The time for PPC for you will probably be when PReP-compliant machines
come out. Maybe a 604. Your C610 is many times faster than my vintage 1987
Mac II. I will upgrade soon, and get MetroWerks while I getting stuff,
so I can start writing native code for it.

I will probably be sorry for not waiting longer - this is always the case,
as I may lock myself out of any Unix for that box. Who knows.
bdp
response 16 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 20:37 UTC 1994

What's PReP?
srw
response 17 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 7 06:20 UTC 1994

PReP is a standard published by some combo of (IBM-Apple-Moto) maybe just IBM,
for PowerPC harware. If the machine adheres to it, then you know that the
other OSes will run on it. Planned are Workplace Shell, AIX, etc.

The 3 new PowerPC Macs from Apple are not PReP compliant, but later ones
may turn out to be.  (I hope I got PReP right, I'm not sure I even got
the capitalization right, but it's weird like that.)
bdp
response 18 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 7 17:38 UTC 1994

ahh, I see.  Apple will probably be forced into PReP compliance, right? :)

(Workplace Shell isn't the OS, it's the interface... Workplace OS is the OS...
 in any case, it's OS/2 for the PowerPC, and it'll be really, really nice. :)
srw
response 19 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 8 06:09 UTC 1994

Right, sorry for the sloppy terminology. I believe it will be super.
Any idea when it'll be real?
I am torn between waiting and not. My Mac is slow as a slug.
I think I'll keep my old Mac, buy a bunch of X10's and automate my house
with it. It'll be "internet ready".
bdp
response 20 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 8 21:40 UTC 1994

OS/2 v2.2 (for PCs) should be out sometime this summer.
Last time I heard anything, WorkPlace OS for PPC should *also* be out
sometime this summer... I'm guessing late fall at the latest.

(I also recently heard that Microsoft says Chicago will be out by June - 
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH....etc...etc..)
srw
response 21 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 06:05 UTC 1994

What hardware systems will Workplace OS for PPC run on?
All that's out today are Apple ($2k-$5k) and IBM ($8-10k).
bdp
response 22 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 17:36 UTC 1994

IBM doesn't have any PPCs out yet (I don't believe so, at least)... 
It'll probably be targetd at their other RISCs, and definately their PPCs
when they come out.  I wouldn't be surprised if it ran on the Macs too.
srw
response 23 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 20:38 UTC 1994

IBM has had PPC Workstations since last fall. They're expensive tho.
They run only AIX.
bdp
response 24 of 51: Mark Unseen   Apr 11 22:05 UTC 1994

PPC Workstations running AIX?  I was thinking along the lines of
Power *PCs* - that is, *personal* computers.  I suppose anything with a PPC
chip in it is a PowerPC. :)

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