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danr
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E71 or 7-E-1?
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Apr 5 11:38 UTC 1993 |
In the agora item about t-shirts, I first proposed the letters "E71" to
denote comm port settings of even parity, seven data bits, and one stop
bit. tsty argued that "7-E-1" was better. Personally, I've most often
seen "E71" and that is the notation my comm program, TELIX, uses. I'd
like to use the most common or the most understandable notation if we
are going to print it on t-shirts.
So, I have a couple of questions? First, what comm program do you use,
and what notation does it use? Second, what notation makes the most
sense to you?
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remmers
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response 1 of 31:
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Apr 5 13:00 UTC 1993 |
My comm. program is MS-Kermit, which doesn't use either notation, and
in fact doesn't allow you to set the number of stop bits. The docu-
mentation claims that the program automatically sets the number of
stop bits correctly based on the connection speed.
(I also use it at 8 data bits, no parity when I call Grex and have no
problems. But that's only because Kermit provides a "strip high bit
on display" option which I have to set.)
7-E-1 is more appealing aesthetically to me than E71 because it's
balanced -- one digit on either side of a letter.
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srw
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response 2 of 31:
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Apr 5 13:31 UTC 1993 |
I'm, with Remmers on all counts, except I use 7-E-1 and don't strip.
I got in this habit because if there were a true 7bit network between my
MacKermit and Grex, file transfers would be hosed at 8 bit.
Since there isn't, I might be able to speed up transfers by doing it
remmers's way.
Stop bits not = 1 is only used at archaic speeds like 110 baud, I believe.
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tsty
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response 3 of 31:
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Apr 5 20:03 UTC 1993 |
<<there +can+ be two stop bits, but I've never encountered it except
in readings about 9 or 10 bit modem-words.>>
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danr
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response 4 of 31:
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Apr 5 22:07 UTC 1993 |
(I think the programmable number of stop bits is a holdover from
tty days. Some of those mechanical monsters needed the extra time
to process the character.)
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robh
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response 5 of 31:
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Apr 6 02:33 UTC 1993 |
I use Commo (the only thing that'll fit on this micro-micro), and
it reads 7e1.
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jdg
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response 6 of 31:
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Apr 6 02:40 UTC 1993 |
re:2-4, yes, I've *used* 2 stop bits. 110 baud. 10 characters per
second. 11 bits per byte. 1 start, 7 data, 1 parity, and 2 stop.
The years were 1969-1971, or so.
Wow, I even remember when I saw my *first* crt terminal, and 300 baud.
It was blindingly fast.
(you may now continue with the t-shirt item.)
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rcurl
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response 7 of 31:
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Apr 6 05:33 UTC 1993 |
Versaterm, which I'm on now, does it
E
7
1
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rogue
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response 8 of 31:
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Apr 6 06:41 UTC 1993 |
Telemate does it E71.
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kentn
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response 9 of 31:
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Apr 6 18:38 UTC 1993 |
(I thought you thought Telemate was incredibly slow and preferred Telix,
rogue?)
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power
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response 10 of 31:
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Apr 6 20:49 UTC 1993 |
ProTERM does 7E1. I, also, call at 8N1, since the VT-100 emulation on this
doesn't distinguish between high bit set or not...
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tsty
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response 11 of 31:
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Apr 7 04:54 UTC 1993 |
Oh, also since E is the 5th letter of the alphabet, 7-E-1 ~7-5-1 in
nice numerical order, descending to a stop ... and is probably the
Daily 3 number for tomorrow, if you needed to know ......
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ecl
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response 12 of 31:
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Apr 9 07:11 UTC 1993 |
actually I call at 8 N 1
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danr
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response 13 of 31:
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Apr 9 11:25 UTC 1993 |
Since Grex seems to work at E71 or 8N1, maybe we should just leave that
line off the t-shirt.
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mju
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response 14 of 31:
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Apr 9 12:33 UTC 1993 |
It only works at 8N1 if your software strips the high bit off characters
(i.e., ignores parity). Many pieces of software (mine, for instance)
do not do that, and I have to call in at 7E1 or text is garbled.
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tsty
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response 15 of 31:
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Apr 9 20:48 UTC 1993 |
Oh, no, some line like that just +has+ to be on the shirt - it's
a phenominal conversation starter, trust me on that. Wearing the
"other" shirt, the prompt does the same thing, start conversations!
Something "cryptic" is the key ............
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danr
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response 16 of 31:
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Apr 9 23:34 UTC 1993 |
Good point.
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bdp
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response 17 of 31:
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Apr 10 19:48 UTC 1993 |
I've usually used E71 and N81. N81 seems to roll off the tongue better than
8N1. So does E71. :)
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rcurl
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response 18 of 31:
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Apr 11 03:53 UTC 1993 |
How about emblazoning 3697 across the front of the shirt?
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steve
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response 19 of 31:
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Apr 11 16:10 UTC 1993 |
Telix uses E71, which goes against my grain. I'd prefer it to be
7E1, although I can't say why.
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kentn
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response 20 of 31:
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Apr 11 16:28 UTC 1993 |
Why not use both E71 and 7E1?
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rcurl
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response 21 of 31:
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Apr 11 16:53 UTC 1993 |
There are 6 permutations. Why not *all* of them? Then everyone would
display their favorite. (Re: #18: 2033 is another possibility).
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kentn
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response 22 of 31:
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Apr 12 00:18 UTC 1993 |
Yeah!
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rogue
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response 23 of 31:
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Apr 12 15:50 UTC 1993 |
#9: I think you're thinking about someone else. Telemate is relatively
large and slower, but I'm running a 486DX2-80MHz machine right now with
16MB RAM and couldn't care less.
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kentn
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response 24 of 31:
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Apr 12 18:12 UTC 1993 |
Hmmm, thought you said something like that on M-Net. Musta been mistaken.
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