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rcurl
Mac OS X Mark Unseen   Aug 3 23:10 UTC 2004

For discussion of and questions about Mac OS X.
127 responses total.
rcurl
response 1 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 3 23:18 UTC 2004

I have Mac OS 10.3.2 running with "Classic" OS 9.2.2,  and use both (and also
have a lot of stuff created under 9.2.2). But my question is about the
Macintosh HD window, where two (out of dozens) of folders are highlighted.
That is, there are colored bars running across the whole line for those
folders. One is highlighted red, along with all the apps in the folder
(all games antedating even OS 9) and the other is highlighted yellow,
and contains mostly recent folders and files. My question is, why are
just these two folder-lines highlighted, and how do I turn that off?
blaise
response 2 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 04:04 UTC 2004

Is this the OS X Finder or the Classic finder?
twenex
response 3 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 04:28 UTC 2004

Sounds like you (or someone) has attached Labels to them. It's about 12 years
since I've used a Mac, but iirc they can be turned off by selecting the
"Labels" Item in the Special menu, or by selecting the Icon and choosing "Get
Info" [or whatever the item is now called) from the menus.
blaise
response 4 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 13:42 UTC 2004

That is correct for the Classic (OS 9) Finder; OS X no longer has Labels
and I'd need to know what View mode he's in to figure it out further.
gelinas
response 5 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 15:14 UTC 2004

I suspect the colors mark applications that are not fully compatible with
the Classic environment: Yellow for those that may run, with problems, and
Red for those that won't work at all.  But I've not been able to confirm this
with the OS X Help.
twenex
response 6 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 17:25 UTC 2004

I stand corrected; thanks.
rcurl
response 7 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 20:37 UTC 2004

This is always - OSX or Classic. All the red highlighted apps run (in OS
9).  The contents of the yellow highlighted folder are just files, not
apps, and a similar collection to that found in lots of the other folders
in Macintosh HD.

gelinas
response 8 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 5 00:07 UTC 2004

When you say that they run "in OS 9", do you mean when booted into OS 9 or
do you mean in Classic when booted into OS X?
rcurl
response 9 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 5 05:30 UTC 2004

Both.
prp
response 10 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 15 17:39 UTC 2004

OS X _^Hd^Hd_^Ho^Ho_^He^He_^Hs^Hs support labels.

Select a file or folder.  Click on the cog in the 
toolbar.  Select a label from the menu.  If you
don't have the cog in your  toolbar or don't have
a toolbar, control-click on the item.  You can
also do this from the finder menu, but I forget
exactly how at the moment.

It sounds to me like Rane's items have labels.
rcurl
response 11 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 16 00:08 UTC 2004

That did it! Thanks. Color Label is under the File menu in OS X.
Control-clicking is what first produced a menu including Color Label - my
search in MAC Help didn't find Control-click for me. (Another "mystery" I had
was that the alphabetical order of items in a list were inverted, and the
little button for inverting it isn't on the window. I discovered that clicking
on the Name panel did it - by accident.)
prp
response 12 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 16 18:18 UTC 2004

Mac OS makes things easy to do, but finding out about features is
sometimes harder than it should be.  OS X help is not as good as
OS 9 help was yet.  A lot of the links cause searches, instead of 
going directly to something.  This can be slow and generally finds
the same stuff I did when I started.  I remember having to look and
look to find out how to change a file's icon, and that was Before
OS X, and 9 for that matter.  It is easy, but you would never find
out how by experimenting.
rcurl
response 13 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 15:47 UTC 2004

I have been using MacSSH for a ssh client that is required to access the
CAEN servers. However it only runs under OS 9 (or Classic). In poking
around the web I found a mention of using Terminal on OS X - which is how
I am connected now (with ssh1). I would like, however, to save connection
bookmarks - the information in the Connect to Server window. I found the
Terminal Help to be pretty unclear. How do I create a list of connections
with the settings for server, ssh1 or ssh2, and user ID? (Also the same
for the other clients, telnet, ftp, sftp.) 

Also, is there a full ftp client available under terminal that doesn't require
that I recall all those ftp commands again?
blaise
response 14 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 18:42 UTC 2004

There are helper applications to handle managing SSH info for Terminal.
 I personally use iTerm as an alternative to Terminal, and because of my
extensive non-GUI experience and weird memory don't bother with
connection lists.  (All of the systems I connect to have the same
username, so "ssh servername" at an OS X command prompt does the trick.)
 I haven't found a GUI FTP client yet; the sftp client I use is Fugu.
rcurl
response 15 of 127: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 20:08 UTC 2004

I'll look into that. However, I have managed to save a server list in
Terminal. The problem was that Terminal Help said to save the servername.term
in Library>Application Support>Terminal, but there wasn't such a folder.
Turns out I had to create it myself - duh!
rcurl
response 16 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 02:21 UTC 2004

How to I copy a [local path] to a file on my computer into the put command
in SFTP in a Terminal window? I need to do this to upload a file on my
computer to my directory on a unix server via ftp. 

gelinas
response 17 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 02:56 UTC 2004

If you aren't in the directory with the file, put the path in quotes, because
it's likely to have spaces:

        put "Documents/Microsoft User Data/My Letter" my-letter
rcurl
response 18 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 04:19 UTC 2004

I get the error message

File "Macintosh HD/Personal Folder/Recipes/Blueberry Pie" not found.

What is the top directory on my Mac (OS-X)? That is, from where do I start
the path? 
gelinas
response 19 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 11:55 UTC 2004

If it were really the root, you'd need a leading slash, not the disk name:

        "/Personal Folder/Recipes/Blueberry Pie"

However, I'd try

        "Personal Folder/Recipes/Blueberry Pie"
rcurl
response 20 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 16:51 UTC 2004

"/Personal Folder/Recipes/Blueberry Pie" works! Thanks!

Terminal Help in OSX is no help at all. It finds nothing for SFTP, for
example, even thouse SFTP is a built in Terminal function. I also thought
there would be a way of selecting the file from a menu or drag-and-drop
in Terminal. Terminal Help does suggest there is, but gives no examples,
and everything I tried like that failed. 
rcurl
response 21 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 06:19 UTC 2004

Here is what Terminal Help says about dragging and dropping into Terminal:

   To display a directory path at the insertion point, drag the directory
   (or a file in the directory) to the Terminal window. For example, if
   you want to change your working directory to a directory named
   "Feedback" on your desktop, type cd with a space after it, then drag
   the Feedback directory from your desktop into Terminal. You'll see
   this: 

   [hostname:~] yourname% cd/Users/yourname/Desktop/Feedback

   Press Return and Terminal changes to the Feedback directory.

When I do this with the file Blueberry Pie, dragging and dropping it into the
sftp>put Terminal window, it enters as

   sftp> put /Personal\ Folder/Recipes/Blueberry\ Pie 

This is a variation on the format that works, but of course it doesn't.
Does this suggest how one can successfully drag/drop the path into the
Terminal sftp window? 

gull
response 22 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 16:44 UTC 2004

The backslashes are supposed to escape the spaces, the same way putting
them in quotes would.  I don't know why it doesn't work; it's possible
sftp doesn't recognize backslash as an escape character for some reason.
rcurl
response 23 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 17:15 UTC 2004

Hmmm....can I change that to what sftp understands? There is a section
"Creating custom control sequences in Terminal" in Terminal Help. 

Hey! I just modified the drag-and-drop by adding quotes, i.e.,

   sftp> put "/Personal\ Folder/Recipes/Blueberry\ Pie"

and it worked! That's not much of an imposition. 
blaise
response 24 of 127: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 18:09 UTC 2004

sftp is not built in to Terminal.  Try "man sftp" at a command prompt.
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