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valerie
System Problems Mark Unseen   Jun 21 15:44 UTC 1998

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tpryan
response 1 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 16:29 UTC 1998

        lynx http://usenetchannel.com does not work for me.

        What is the least pages/keystrokes way to read newsgroups,
including alt.fan.weird-al, rec.music.dementia & rec.music.filk?
keesan
response 2 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 19:55 UTC 1998

When I try to use Pine or even Pico in mail I get a bunch of gibberish.
When I try to backspace while entering a reponse I get {D [D.
(not {D but [D), I can't make corrections).  I was also treated as a newuser
when I typed bbs and only shown the first and last items of agora.
Isa it a system problem i or is my computer too hot or humid?
How can I send a file in mail, since I can't use pine?  I tryed ~r and then
return and entered the file name and return, is that right?  When I tried
to switch to pico to see what was in my message, I got gibberish again.
keesan
response 3 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 20:04 UTC 1998

The read new command skipped most of the itesm in agora.
scott
response 4 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 20:04 UTC 1998

Whoah, now, one question at a time...  ;)


Problem #1 sounds like a terminal emulation mismatch.  Did you change your
computer's emulation, or possibly your Grex . files?

Problem #2 is the normal thing that happens when Agora is rolled.

Problem #3 depends on your local microclimate.  Are tornadoes attracted or
repelled from your computer?

Problem #4 should be fixed by solving #1, but in the meantime, the way to
include text in "mail" is to type    ~r   followed by the filename.  Mail does
not support attachments, though, so ~r just reads text into the message body.
scott
response 5 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 20:06 UTC 1998

(keesan slipped in).

To see all the items in a new conference, try "read all" at the Ok: prompt.
Do it now while things or small, *or* you can let the "missing" items appear
in full as new (relative to your first reading) responses are added.
keesan
response 6 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 20:17 UTC 1998

I fixed the gibberish problem by completely exiting grex and redialing.  Must
have been one of those mini-tornadoes on the line somewhere.  I was also
getting miscellaneous things in mid-line all over the place.  Logging out and
then logging in on the same line had not helped at all.
        I had typed r n to read agora responses.  Will try read all now.
Thanks for all the help, Scott.
valerie
response 7 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 22:46 UTC 1998

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birdlady
response 8 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 00:13 UTC 1998

When I use one of my telnet programs (through netlink and not WMU like I am
now), I can't read the last line of the last response in an item.  Is there
any way I can change my screen settings if I use that program, and how do I
find out what they are right now (so I can just add a line or two)?
jerome
response 9 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 04:31 UTC 1998

So why would the wait list summary report 67 remote users + 6 local,
72 max remote, but have a queue of 40?  What happened to the other five
slots?
jerome
response 10 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 04:33 UTC 1998

And while I'm complaining... what happened to the mailer?  Attempts to
send mail result in: "/usr/lib/sendmail: No such file or directory"
srw
response 11 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 06:21 UTC 1998

Tim, I don't know anything about http://usenetchannel.com
We usually recommend http://www.dejanews.com/ for usenet.
tpryan
response 12 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 21:20 UTC 1998

re 11: got it from running a "read news"--rn (or !rn):
News on Grex is down.  Sorry!
It may be back in several months.
In the meantime, please load Lynx and go to http://www.dejanews.com/
or http://reference.com or http://usenetchannel.com
valerie
response 13 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 21:45 UTC 1998

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valerie
response 14 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 21:47 UTC 1998

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keesan
response 15 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 20:11 UTC 1998

Pine has become very slow recently, especially in composing messages. 
Sometimes I wait 15 seconds to see a word appear after I type it.  Could this
be related to increasing the number of telnet ports?  And it is also slower
to display things from the inbox, and to send messages (I think).  If it gets
much worse, I may go back to using M-net for e-mail.  Someone from staff want
to check it out?  Twice today same problem, an hour or so apart.
aruba
response 16 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 20:41 UTC 1998

The load average is quite high:

  4:40pm  up 6 days,  4:40,  78 users,  load average: 74.28, 75.37, 75.62
dpc
response 17 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 20:50 UTC 1998

Ack!  Are we under cyber-attack?
other
response 18 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 20:54 UTC 1998

4:54pm  up 6 days,  4:54,  76 users,  load average: 11.37, 11.70, 28.73

some mitigation...
tpryan
response 19 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 02:57 UTC 1998

        I thought a promise was made not to increase the ptys and
put you back into the cycle of need to raise money to improve system
to supoort the large number of connections.
scg
response 20 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 04:58 UTC 1998

The idea is to find out how many users we can support without bogging the
system down.  Bogging the system down is a bad idea, but we don't gain
anything by making people wait in the queue while there are spare CPU cycles.
senna
response 21 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 04:59 UTC 1998

Heh, I remember when I measured the quickness of pine in portions of hours.
I'd occasionally have to bump a key to prevent myself from getting lagged out
from inactivity while it loaded.  
mcnally
response 22 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 06:02 UTC 1998

  One thing to keep in mind is that Grex has had a couple of incidents
  recently with people abusing the mail system.  Sending out a huge
  batch of mail can cause the load to skyrocket very quickly..
keesan
response 23 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 14:24 UTC 1998

STeve said there was a vandal on the system at the time when Pine was running
slowly, so it has nothing to do with number of users.  Pine is back to
amazingly fast again today.
srw
response 24 of 234: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 05:48 UTC 1998

High load averages are almost never a function of user count. Really 
high numbers like in the 70s usually indicate a resource hog, which can 
be either a deliberate attack or clueless behavior. If a grex staffer 
finds the system in that mode, he or she will take steps to restore 
normal performance.
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