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valerie
System Problems Mark Unseen   Mar 22 14:49 UTC 1998

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dang
response 1 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 21:44 UTC 1998

The first problem. :(  I've had a report that the /b shell is broken.
valerie
response 2 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 21:58 UTC 1998

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janc
response 3 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 21:58 UTC 1998

Yeah, first it was missing, then I fixed it, but fixed it wrong, now I've
fixed it right (I hope).

One bug down ... how many to go?
i
response 4 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 22:20 UTC 1998

Two (depending on how you count) for the collection:  

Bad parameters near ""
message i got when i answered 'join' to the 'you are not a member of 
/bbs/agora25' prompt.  

'mail' can't find my mailbox (/var/spool/mail/i/z/i).  Doesn't matter
right now, though, for a couple reasons that 'll' will show you....

No hurry.  
valerie
response 5 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 22:27 UTC 1998

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janc
response 6 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 22:48 UTC 1998

Yup, all one letter logins had their mail owned by root (they had to be moved
separately).  This has now been fixed.
senna
response 7 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 00:39 UTC 1998

Holy cow.  So far the processor response is splendid.
scg
response 8 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 00:50 UTC 1998

Something must be broken.  Grex isn't pausing long enough for me to take a
nap between conferences.  When am I supposed to sleep? ;)
scott
response 9 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 03:14 UTC 1998

The "who" command seems to be slower than the "w" command.  ???
dang
response 10 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 03:18 UTC 1998

We are now using gnu who, which does a lookup on all the domain names.  This
has the good effect that the whole name shows up, and the bad effect that it's
slow.
srw
response 11 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 04:04 UTC 1998

It's really very very slow because of that. Especially when you consider 
how fast everything else is.
steve
response 12 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 05:24 UTC 1998

   But you can always use /bin/who, which doesn't do lookups, if
you need the extra speed.

   The problems with gnu who is that if the lookup for the person
doesn't find a DNS entry (something which almost never happened,
but does today because places are too cheap to get domains), it
had to expend time doing that, which is why who listings will
seem to be going nice and fast, then pause for 5 - 15 seconds
and then go on again.
mcnally
response 13 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 05:36 UTC 1998

  unfortunately name resolution is a relatively complicated process
  that takes a non-negligible amount of time.  on the bright side,
  with optimal caching, each lookup only has to go out to the internet
  for a full resolution once and subsequent requests get checked against
  the info that's already been fetched.  on the downside, that doesn't
  help all that much because each user that logs in is highly likely to
  come from someplace different than the hosts that previous users have
  come from.
  
  if it really proves to be a problem it might be worth tuning the
  caching behavior of named to hold more reverse name records for longer..
  one would probably need to cache such records for unacceptably long,
  though, for it to help a great deal.
mcnally
response 14 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 05:38 UTC 1998

  and, as STeve points out, the big time killer with lookups is 
  when the resolver waits for a failed lookup to time out..
tpryan
response 15 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 05:44 UTC 1998

        I guess you can't do !w -n|more like on M-net where the -n
does no new lookups.  just returns numbers.
        tried, w: bad flag -n
        Maybe a local fix?
senna
response 16 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 06:05 UTC 1998

I'm still dropping some text, though
aruba
response 17 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 06:20 UTC 1998

Pine's "-i" flag doesn't seem to be working; it used to take you directly to
the screen which lists the contents of your mailbox, but now it doesn't seem
to do anything.
mcnally
response 18 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 06:25 UTC 1998

  hmmm..  perhaps it's being overridden by a default value for the 
  'initial-keystroke' setting?  in any case you can miming the same
  behavior by going to the <M>ain menu, then <S>etup, <C>onfig, and
  changing the value for 'initial-keystroke' to "i" (for <I>ndex)
aruba
response 19 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 06:42 UTC 1998

Interesting - didn't know about that.  THanks, Mike.
valerie
response 20 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 15:09 UTC 1998

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birdlady
response 21 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 19:44 UTC 1998

If I don't want a list of users *and* their addys, I just type !users.  It
also keeps me from having to scroll back three screens.
gibson
response 22 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 19:54 UTC 1998

        I didn't know about the -i flag. I tried it and it works fine but when
I used config to set it I got "bad initial keystroke (missing comma?)". What
am I doing wrong?
aruba
response 23 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 06:25 UTC 1998

Thanks for the fix, Valerie.
keesan
response 24 of 306: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 00:13 UTC 1998

I tried to abort (cancel) a message that I was writing using mail,
by hitting control-C twice, and what happened was that ther appeared
on
Well, the backspace is not working for me, but that may be something
else related to Jim's putting a mini version of z
zmodem on instead of procomm
The problem in mail, even before he changed to zmodem was:
^C@
^C@
appeared and there was no way to abort the message.
This happened twice already with the Ctl  Ctl-C.
Also, it took 25 sec to ket
get a response to kermit -r, and a minute and a half for zmodem sz, which I
think used to come up quite a bit faster.
Please excuse any other odd things that Jim's zmodem did here, I cannot get
pico to work eiether and hope you don't see what Isee.  Let's see if I can
abort this response now.
Well, I could have aborted the responses here, but not in mail.
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