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Grex System Problems - Spring 2005 Mark Unseen   Mar 22 12:11 UTC 2005

This item is for system problems.  If something on Grex isn't working 
right (line noise on a modem, weird behavior from a program, etc.), 
this is the place to announce it.  Except for security holes.  If you 
find a hole in system security, mail information about it to "staff".
457 responses total.
naftee
response 1 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 15:43 UTC 2005

so like what's up with the huge help banner thing that greeted me.  I was so
scared I had to whack the space-bar several times to wake myself up.
i
response 2 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 20:08 UTC 2005

Agora has a big welcome/help banner that only shows up the first time
you enter the conference.  When the seasonal agora rolls, though, the
system probably isn't clever enough to check whether you're an existing
user (of the prior-season agora).
naftee
response 3 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 22 21:24 UTC 2005

Ahh, indeed.
gull
response 4 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 00:18 UTC 2005

Backtalk and fronttalk both hang when I try to enter the conference.  I'm
posting this from Picospan, which does work.
gelinas
response 5 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 01:27 UTC 2005

FrontTalk is working for me.
daan
response 6 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 10:40 UTC 2005

The 'HELP' option from the 'menu' program does not work:
tail: /usr/local/lib/menus/dialogs/help_doc: No such file or directory
johnnie
response 7 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 16:11 UTC 2005

I'm finding it impossible to access agora via backtalk.  No problems getting
inot other confs.  Entering this via telnet, which seems fine...
gull
response 8 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 16:44 UTC 2005

Backtalk is working for me now.  I think it was having problems with the
new conference, but once Picospan had me registered in it, everything
worked.
twenex
response 9 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 17:30 UTC 2005

Backtalk crasheth for me:

ERROR: terminated by signal 11
executing "get_conf_note" on line 159 of pistachio/confhome.bt

Version: Backtalk version 1.3.20

Stack:
(Agora)
( has )
10
( )
(items)
(: )
10
( brand new, )
0
( with new responses.<P>)
(<FORM ACTION=read>\n<TABLE CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 WIDTH=100%>\n<TR><TD
VALIGN=top>\n)
MARK[0]
(1-$)

User Dictionary 0:
dumb=[...] pw_url=(/cgi-bin/pw/backtalk/) dumbbrow=0 vlinkcolor=() bodytags=()
best=[...] alinkcolor=() highcolor=(FF0000)
fw_button_src=(SRC=/backtalk-1.3.1\
8/image/pistachio/brd/button.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=16 BORDER=0 ALT="=&gt;">)
global_header={...} regbutton=(bgn) respnumber=() delim=(,:;/ )
entrance_button=(<IMG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/entrance.gif
HE\
IGHT=16 WIDTH=57 BORDER=0 ALT=Entrance>) itemlist_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1\
.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/itemlist.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=54 BORDER=0 ALT="Item
L\
ist">) offbutton=(ggn) logout_url=(/cgi-bin/backtalk/) nni=10 bestsort=5
anon_url=(/cgi-bin/backtalk/) itemnumber=() breg=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/im\
age/pistachio/bgn/) adm_url=(/cgi-bin/adm/backtalk/) textcolor=() linkcolor=()
nonextconf_button=(<IMG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/ggn/nextconf.gif
\
HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=71 BORDER=0 ALT="No Next Conference">) minbrow=0 nnr=0
bgcolor=(FFFFCC) help_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/he\
lp.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=32 BORDER=0 ALT=Help>) curr=[...] bgimage=()
button=(<I\
MG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/button.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=16
BORD\
ER=0 ALT=-&gt;>) admbutton=(brd) confhome_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/im\
age/pistachio/bgn/confhome.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=68 BORDER=0 ALT="Conference
Hom\
e">) boff=(<IMG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/ggn/) global_footer={...}
thissort=10 nit=10
button_src=(SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/button\
.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=16 BORDER=0 ALT=-&gt;>) badm=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/i\
mage/pistachio/brd/) bodyline=(<BODY BGCOLOR=FFFFCC>\n)
noreadnew_button=(<IMG\
 SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/ggn/readnew.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=65
BORDE\
R=0 ALT="No Read New">) confname=(agora) skip=0 fw_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-\
1.3.18/image/pistachio/brd/button.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=16 BORDER=0
ALT="=&gt;">)
no_button=(<IMG SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/ggn/button.gif HEIGHT=16
\
WIDTH=16 BORDER=0 ALT="--">) nextconf_button=(<IMG
SRC=/backtalk-1.3.18/image/\
pistachio/bgn/nextconf.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=62 BORDER=0 ALT="Next Conference">)
login=(<PRE>Welcome to the Spring 2005 Agora!\nYour Host: Katie Geddes\n\nNew
\
Users: Welcome to Grex!\n\nThis conference has been restarted.  Type
&quot;joi\
n winter&quot; for the old version.\n\n</PRE>\n) readnew_button=(<IMG
SRC=/bac\
ktalk-1.3.18/image/pistachio/bgn/readnew.gif HEIGHT=16 WIDTH=65 BORDER=0
ALT="\
Read New">)

System Dictionary:
anonymity=0 since=@0 author_erase=1 texttype=() amadm=0 mayhide=0
http_headers=1 fw_retitle=1 blindfold=0 resp=0 editdate=@0 hidden=0 id=()
http_expires=@0 uid=-1 newbie=0 linktonew=1 sessions=0 homedir=()
yapp_format=0 mayread=1 mayedit=0 ifav=1 expire_session=3600 mayretire=0
canspell=1 flavor=() lastdate=@0
scriptdir=(/usr/local/lib/backtalk-1.3.18/scr\
ipt) parentresp=0 saverep=0 fishbowl=0 maxresp=0 spell_lang=() expect_resp=0
userlist=0 authorid=() spell_ignore=() authorname=() fw_erase=0
author_retire=1 csel=() http_location=() maypost=0 conf=(agora)
copyright=(Cop\
yright 1996-2004, Jan Wolter and Steve Weiss) conflist=(/bbs/conflist)
authoruid=0 conftitle=(Agora) [=mark isel=() linked=0 `=mark loglevel=0
cpass=() secret=0 canattach=0 fwlist=(katie) canemail=0 auto_recompile=1
progname=(backtalk) grouplist=0 exec_limit=0 forgotten=0 maxread=0 mark=mark
showforgotten=0 mayseefname=1 publicflavors=(public) author_kill=1
http_no_cache=0 urlarg=(agora) bbsdir=(/bbs/) dbtype=() fw_hide=0
allowgraphics=1 alias=() stack_limit=0 nopwedit=1 attachments=() gid=-1 item=0
author_retitle=1 author_hide=1 frozen=0 scriptname=() mayfreeze=0 editfrozen=1
fw_edit=0 linkdate=@0 mayretitle=0 cgiquery=() newuseropen=0 amfw=0
post_log_file=() secure=1 rfav=2 http_content_type=(text/html) maxitem=10
author_edit=0 mayresp=0 readdate=@0 author_freeze=1 allowanon=1 title=()
mayseealias=1 maykill=0 noskip=0 confdir=(/bbs/agora53) particip=(.agora53.cf)
erased=0 date=@0 favicon=(/usr/local/www/favicon.ico) timezone=() text=()
retired=0 loginlen=8 rsel=(new) mayerase=0

Environment: DOCUMENT_ROOT=/usr/local/www
HTTP_ACCEPT=text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,tex
t/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET=ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING=gzip,deflate
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE=en-gb,en-us;q=0.7,en;q=0.3 HTTP_CONNECTION=keep-alive
HTTP_HOST=www.cyberspace.org HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE=300
HTTP_REFERER=http://www.cyberspace.org/ HTTP_USER_AGENT=Mozilla/5.0 (X11;
U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050115 Firefox/1.0 PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
REMOTE_ADDR=81.179.66.29 REMOTE_PORT=48852
SCRIPT_FILENAME=/usr/local/libexec/cgi-bin/backtalk SERVER_ADDR=216.86.77.194
SERVER_ADMIN=webmaster@cyberspace.org SERVER_NAME=www.cyberspace.org
SERVER_PORT=80 SERVER_SIGNATURE=<ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.29 Server at <A
HREF="mailto:webmaster@cyberspace.org">www.cyberspace.org</A> Port
80</ADDRESS> SERVER_SOFTWARE=Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) mod_perl/1.27 mod_ssl/2.8.16
OpenSSL/0.9.7c GATEWAY_INTERFACE=CGI/1.1 SERVER_PROTOCOL=HTTP/1.1
REQUEST_METHOD=GET QUERY_STRING= REQUEST_URI=/cgi-bin/backtalk/peek:agora
SCRIPT_NAME=/cgi-bin/backtalk PATH_INFO=/peek:agora
PATH_TRANSLATED=/usr/local/www/peek:agora 
remmers
response 10 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 17:48 UTC 2005

That was very entertaining.  I especially liked the
"HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE=300" bit.

I was experiencing extreme Backtalk slowness in Agora a few minutes ago
(but not in other cf's), but it seems to have cleared up.
richard
response 11 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 18:40 UTC 2005

both yesterday and today I have been all but unable to get into agora via
backtalk.  The other conferences come up right away, but agora doesn't seem
to come up at all 
drew
response 12 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 19:32 UTC 2005

    Since the move to Co-lo, there have been numerous CRC errors and such
during downloads via lsz through direct-dialed connections, that almost never
occurred before the move. I think the last time I downloaded with lsz was day
before yesterday.
richard
response 13 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 22:55 UTC 2005

re #11 agora seems to be coming up fine now
rksjr
response 14 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 24 22:40 UTC 2005

Grex Web Server Statistics at:

    http://www.cyberspace.org/stats/

is currently reporting for time ranges no later than:

    October 03-October 09 2004
 
Is it possible to access current data at some other URL?
aruba
response 15 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 03:52 UTC 2005

I suspect that whatever script that was, it doesn't work correctly on the
new operating system.
jep
response 16 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 05:23 UTC 2005

I haven't been able to access Backtalk from either home or work all week.
I still can't tonight.
slynne
response 17 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 11:45 UTC 2005

That is weird jep. I havent had any trouble with backtalk at all. I am
using it right now as a matter of fact. 
juicy
response 18 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 13:10 UTC 2005

picospan quit randomly on me a moment ago
byte 1655 [Press space to continue, 'q' to quit.]zsh: terminated  bbs
... but seems fine now (0805 est)
jep
response 19 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 16:30 UTC 2005

Last night when I posted resp:16, I was seeing a big delay upon 
logon.  I left the browser window open and used putty to connect 
instead, and a few minutes after I complained, Backtalk came up and 
was fine from then on.  It's working fine now, too.
gull
response 20 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 21:52 UTC 2005

Re resp:19: For some reason, backtalk can't seem to handle initializing
this conference.  If you visit this conference first in Picospan, it
works after that.
slynne
response 21 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 00:47 UTC 2005

I have never visited this conference in picospan and I havent had any
trouble
russ
response 22 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 13:56 UTC 2005

It appears to be time - if not past time - to block the IP addresses
used by a certain set of twits.
other
response 23 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 16:01 UTC 2005

Vanilla interface of Backtalk does not seem to respect user filter
options.
naftee
response 24 of 457: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 16:10 UTC 2005

someone should fix the vanilla interface on GreX :(
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