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mary
Grex in 2012 Mark Unseen   Dec 12 20:01 UTC 2011

Is anyone interested in running for a seat on Grex's board of directors?  
If so, please volunteer here.  If not, maybe we should plan to dissolve 
the organization in a graceful manner.  This probably means revoking our 
501c(3) status and our bylaws and simply allowing whatever volunteers are 
interested in running the hardware to do so, probably out of one of their 
homes.  Whatever money we have would need to be donated to another non-
profit entity, I believe. 

I, for one, sincerely thank our current board members for all their 
efforts.  Kent, especially.  

But without volunteers the game is over.  Anyone willing to step up to 
the plate and give it a try?  
57 responses total.
lar
response 1 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 20:39 UTC 2011

for once you and I agree mary. the days of this type of forum are
over.m-net has a superior shell and platform so most of the CS majors
use that as a practice box. grex could have had a part in that but
everyone ignored cross's suggestion to move over to freebsd. Openbsd
just plain sucks.the bbs here has decayed into a few users who shout out
their particular party line and all the good trolling fodder is gone so
I am the only die hard troll left. gone are the heydays of party. even
the system info conf has been laid waste by valerie mates unethical
delete script that violated the stated purpose of grex and all that
because someone suggested that nursing makes your nipples tough.grex was
an interesting place when it ran on sun hardware as that was a bit of a
novelty even those many years ago. you and remmers both have forsaken
grex and no longer entertain with your witty and creative comebacks. 

grex is dead,long live m-net!
mary
response 2 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 21:10 UTC 2011

I guess that means you're not interested in running for a board seat.
nharmon
response 3 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 21:12 UTC 2011

What kind of time commitment is involved with being on Grex's BoD?
ryan
response 4 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 22:30 UTC 2011

I live in Chicago, so I can't volunteer, sorry!
If I was local, I would do it.
kentn
response 5 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 23:25 UTC 2011

We have had board members dial-in (or Skype in, if that works), and our
by-laws allow for this.  It does make it a little interesting to find a
location were we can have a phone, but it's not impossible.

The time commitment is a couple hours every 6-8 weeks plus whatever
thinking you need to do to prepare for a meeting and answer an e-mail or
two in between meetings.

It might be less time depending on how often the board chooses to meet
and how many issues requiring board input occur between meetings (that
has not been much other than contribute to the agenda and commit to a
meeting date and time).

If you are a Board officer, your time commitment will be somewhat higher.
denise
response 6 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 00:48 UTC 2011

If we stick with the by-laws, I won't be able to run again as this will 
end my 2nd consecutive term. Of the 5 current board members, 4 members 
term will expire at the end of the month; if IIRC, 3 of us are
ineligible  to run again due to this 2 consecutive term limit.
keesan
response 7 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 01:22 UTC 2011

How about voting on whether to allow more consecutive terms if nobody else
is running?
kentn
response 8 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 01:25 UTC 2011

We'd need to change the by-laws for that since the by-laws are 
specific about the number of consecutive terms.
ryan
response 9 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 02:06 UTC 2011

Well if a "warm body" is just needed, who can participate via skype, I
suppose I could throw my hat into the ring.  However, I do not know if I'd
be qualified, as I have just recently re-joined Grex after several years 
away -- and I'm not really sure what the duties of a board member are anyway.
But still, if it is needed for Grex to continue operating, and nobody else
is willing, I'd do it just to try to keep Grex going -- because I think it
is something worth keeping.  I learned quite a bit of stuff on Grex
"back in the day" ;)
rcurl
response 10 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 03:45 UTC 2011

One duty of a Board member is to keep Grex going
mary
response 11 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 12:26 UTC 2011

Thanks, Ryan.
kentn
response 12 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 13:02 UTC 2011

Yes, thank you, Ryan.  
keesan
response 13 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 13:50 UTC 2011

Where will grex be meeting (every 2-3  months).
glitch
response 14 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 15:35 UTC 2011

I can throw my name in the hat as well. Being from upstate NY means it'd be
a remote thing.
kentn
response 15 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 16:36 UTC 2011

I'll run again, too.
mary
response 16 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 16:37 UTC 2011

Wow, thanks Kent & glitch.  There is hope for this sucker yet. ;-)
keesan
response 17 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 17:04 UTC 2011

Meeting place seems to be irrelevant at this point.
richard
response 18 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 18:57 UTC 2011

The organization cannot dissolve because in doing so, not only would 
the money have to be donated to charity, but the organization's assets 
as well.  Which would principally include the hardware grex runs on.  
How much money does Grex have left anyway?  The ballgame's over when 
the money runs out regardless. 
richard
response 19 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 19:06 UTC 2011

Actually there is little point in continuing the cyberspace 
communications organization when it does nothing, doesn't have enough 
people for its board, and has really ceased to exist for practical 
purposes. Perhaps Grex should dissolve the corporation and donate the 
box to someone who can keep it in their house and reboot it now and 
again.  A benevolent dictator who will keep running it.

Somebody call Dave Cahill  :)    Easy easy...only kidding about that.  
He'd take the Grex box and throw it into Lake Michigan.  Better find 
somebody else. 
jep
response 20 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 23:23 UTC 2011

Dave Cahill never did anything to make you think he had ill intentions 
toward Grex.

There are established rules for disbanding a non-profit.  Grex could 
disband, sell off assets, and donate any remaining cash to any 501(c)(3) 
selected by the Board, as long as there is a Board.  If there is not, I 
imagine the assets would be collected by the IRS and probably put into 
storage and forgotten.  I bet it happens pretty often that way to small 
non-profits that cease to have a membership.
richard
response 21 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 00:13 UTC 2011

re #20 "Dave Cahill never did anything to make you think he had ill 
intentions toward Grex."

Oh I dunno.  When I suggested sometime back on mnet that grex was in 
trouble and maybe arbornet could take it over, he said something 
like 'over my dead body', with a few expletives thrown in.  You got the 
impression he'd do everything in his power to prevent those guys from 
helping grex in anyway.  Well it wasn't an impression, he *said* that. 
Is that ill will?
ball
response 22 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 00:39 UTC 2011

I'm open to the idea.  It's about time I pulled a
shift just to give a little back to Grex.
kentn
response 23 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 02:42 UTC 2011

Thanks, Andy.  We've got 4 people running for 4 seats now.  Anyone
else interested in help Grex by serving on the Board?  
rcurl
response 24 of 57: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 04:24 UTC 2011

Don't the articles contain a statement on how assets will be disributed if
the organization folds? I thought that was required of non-profits.
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