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umagesh
To Anand Mark Unseen   Feb 23 08:28 UTC 1998

Hi Anand, test worked?
40 responses total.
adubya
response 1 of 40: Mark Unseen   Jul 29 09:02 UTC 1998

worked fine
deblack
response 2 of 40: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 03:24 UTC 1998

This response has been erased.

acid
response 3 of 40: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 07:00 UTC 1998

How old are you people?
 .
other
response 4 of 40: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 19:51 UTC 1999

headlines! wow!

and bold text!

but horizontal rules don't seem
to work... is this to
avoid responses which are formatted
to spoof additional responses?

janc
response 5 of 40: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 00:18 UTC 1999

Yup.  You're quick.
other
response 6 of 40: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 22:33 UTC 1999

so were you, to think of it...  :)
deblack
response 7 of 40: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 21:02 UTC 1999

Testing....

Hello, world!


Hai!
janc
response 8 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 00:40 UTC 1999

Here's a whole new way to put spoilers in postings. Use your mouse pointer to highlight between the > and <.

>This is blue text on a blue background<

Well, doesn't work for Picospan users.

other
response 9 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 01:28 UTC 1999

hey! can we have backtalk automatically format really bad jokes that 
way, so the unprepared don't experience them?

<g>
janc
response 10 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 15:22 UTC 1999

Dunno - is there a reliable way to detect bad jokes?
janc
response 11 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 15:22 UTC 1999

You know, the post button is smaller on this version of Backtalk - will
this make it harder to post while drunk?
remmers
response 12 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 15:36 UTC 1999

Hello, world!
remmers
response 13 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 15:37 UTC 1999

Hello, world!
remmers
response 14 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 21:47 UTC 1999

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remmers
response 15 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 21:58 UTC 1999

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response 16 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 22:32 UTC 1999

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other
response 17 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 06:29 UTC 1999

Wednesday 3 March 1999 8:24 pm Lane 15
NAME 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTAL w/ HDCP
Ken
1 4
5
X
23
5 3
31
7 /
47
6 2
55
X
74
5 4
83
4 /
100
7 2
109
7 2
118
118 186
Thad
8 -
8
4 4
16
3 6
25
1 6
32
3 4
39
3 4
46
8 /
66
X
86
3 /
103
7 1
111
111 191
Gus
6 /
13
3 5
21
7 -
28
1 /
44
6 -
50
7 -
57
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64
X
84
7 /
104
X 1 /
124
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Eric
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29
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remmers
response 18 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 19:17 UTC 1999

Dürfen wir jetzt hineingehen?
Er half uns es nach Hause tragen.
Sie lehrte ihn Deutsch sprechen.
Ich hörte die jungen Knaben singen.
Wir werden die Rechnung bald bezahlen müssen.
Der Alte vergaß, ein Trinkgeld zu geben.

Please read §2.25 of the textbook.

Do you have a 50¢ piece?

You have only ½ as much money as I have.

This response copyright © 1999 by yours truly.

remmers
response 19 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 19:21 UTC 1999

Hm, my resp:18 looks pretty good in Netscape. However, it looks a bit
crappy in Picospan. I'd say that Backtalk needs to do reasonable
transliteration of character entities in preparing the Picospan version
of a response. For example, substitute "ue" for "&uuml;", "cent" for
"&cent;", "1/2" for "&frac12;", etc.
remmers
response 20 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 19:31 UTC 1999

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their party. The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog, etc. etc. etc. Four score and seven years ago. The end.
remmers
response 21 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 19:32 UTC 1999

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their party. The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog, etc. etc. etc.

Four score and seven years ago.

The end.

remmers
response 22 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 19:33 UTC 1999

<remmers gains insight into the difference between "Pure HTML" and "lazy
HTML">
janc
response 23 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 20:20 UTC 1999

The difference isn't much right now.  The only thing "lazy HTML" does
differently is translate blank lines in to <P> directives.  My basic
concept was that with "lazy HTML" you should be able to mostly forget
that you are entering HTML, and just throw in tags now and then for
little things here and there without too much of a "Whoops, I forgot I
was entering HTML" effect.  It needs work, and it may be in impossible
concept.

The room for improvement in the plain-text conversion process is vast. 
There are real questions about how far you want to go with this.  I
don't think Steve is eager to rewrite lynx.

One thing I think would be neat would be to translate
<STRONG>text</STRONG> into t^Hte^Hex^Hxt^Ht, so the Picospan pager could
turn it into bold text for terminals that support that.  Similarly <EM>
and <UL> text could be converted into _^Ht_^He_^Hx_^Ht type things.

I'd also like it if <A> tags were translated into something like
[LINK http://www.grex.org], giving the URL.  Also <IMG> tags should
give the URL of the image (or the ALT text?  or both?).

Luckily, this is all Steve's code, so I can wish for things without
having to program them myself.
remmers
response 24 of 40: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 21:32 UTC 1999

I like the "lazy HTML" concept. Something else you might consider is
translating the *....* ascii emphasis convention to "<em>..</em>" or
"<strong>..</strong>" containers in the HTML version and _^Ht_(etc)
sequences in the plain-text version.

I think that plain-text conversion should do something with character
entities besides dumping them raw. One of the big plusses for HTML
support in a conferencing program, it seems to me, is the capability one
has of including characters that are not part of the 7-bit ascii set:
characters from foreign alphabets and special symbols like the circled-C
copyright. It'd be nice if people could do that and still have the
plain-text version come out looking reasonable.
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