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Cheney shoots fellow hunter in South Texas. Mark Unseen   Feb 12 23:39 UTC 2006

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cross
response 1 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 23:57 UTC 2006

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mcnally
response 2 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 23:58 UTC 2006

 re #0:  There are going to be a lot of people disappointed
 that it wasn't the other way around..
cross
response 3 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 00:00 UTC 2006

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cyklone
response 4 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 00:09 UTC 2006

To repeat myself a bit, now we know where Cheney really stands on gun control.
I'm guessing a Chickenhawks Gone Wild video would sell like crazy, at least
in Texas.
cross
response 5 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 00:10 UTC 2006

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nharmon
response 6 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 03:18 UTC 2006

Dick Cheney should be investigated, and prosecuted to the fullest extent
of the law. The negligent discharge of a firearm is a crime in many
states, but I imagine that this episode will be quietly swept under the
rug due to the VP's status. That makes me want to puke. If I were out
hunting, and was stupid enough to shoot into some brush because
something inside was making noise, I can gurantee that I would be
charged, and rightfully so.

Cheney should be charged with the negligent discharge of a firearm
causing injury, and his hunting priviledges revoked. This is immature
redneck horseplay, and a 70-year old men should know the fuck better.
happyboy
response 7 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 09:10 UTC 2006

r5: totally hot...if you ignore her adam's apple and her penis.


i wonder if dick was out hunting pre-crippled birds again
like the he-man that he is?
jadecat
response 8 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 13:48 UTC 2006

What's wonderful is that the VP's office made no mention of the
incident- until a local paper got wind of it. Then is was admitted, but
the man shot was said to be in stable condition. According to his
hospital- it's stable condition... in the ICU.
nharmon
response 9 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 14:05 UTC 2006

Why should the VP's office make mention of it?
jadecat
response 10 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 14:19 UTC 2006

Because not mentioning it gives the impression they were trying to
conceal it. I'm not suggesting that they needed to have a huge press
conference or anything.
johnnie
response 11 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 14:28 UTC 2006

Ah, that's probably just SOP in the VP office--when Cheney has somebody
killed, they cover it up.
nharmon
response 12 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 15:55 UTC 2006

Re 10: I'd see it as a waste for the VP's office to be spending time and
money on releasing information about something that occured on Cheney's
private time that is of no business to the Federal Guv'mint.

This is a matter for Texas law enforcement to handle.
bru
response 13 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 16:56 UTC 2006

boy, do you guys have to reach out for something or what?

It was an accident, and he should have his hunting license revoked.  But I
doubt there is any criminal charge that could be brought.  Maybe Assault with
a deadly weapon, but I would have to check it out.
tod
response 14 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 17:11 UTC 2006

I bet he was drunk off his ass.
mcnally
response 15 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 17:27 UTC 2006

 re #8:  With all of the things that Cheney's office can be legitimately
 criticized for concealing I really don't think we need to add not
 immediately disclosing this incident to the pile.
nharmon
response 16 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 17:29 UTC 2006

Assault with a deadly weapon? Uh, not even. That would be a felony. What
we're looking at here is negligent use of a firearm, whose penalty is
usually stiffened when injury or death is involved. But it is misdemeanor.

Nonetheless, Cheney's status as Vice-President should not mitigate his
responsibility for careless shooting.
mcnally
response 17 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 17:35 UTC 2006

 re #16:  That's right.  It'd be wrong to treat him differently than
 any other rich guy.
tod
response 18 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 17:43 UTC 2006

He shot the guy in the face and neck and chest and they're spinning it with
"He was a lil shook up but doing ok"

WHAT?!  He got blasted with a 12 gauge!
happyboy
response 19 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 18:35 UTC 2006

cheney was probably intoxicated.
rcurl
response 20 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 19:13 UTC 2006

It was a 28 gauge gun.
tod
response 21 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 19:30 UTC 2006

Dum, dum, dum, dummy what have you done
Dum, dum, dum, it's the sound of my gun
Dum, dum, dum, dummy what have you done
Dum, dum, dum, it's the sound, it's the sound...
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah....

Cheney's Got A Gun
Cheney's Got A Gun
His whole world's come undone
From lookin' straight at the sun
What did GW's daddy do
What did he put you through

They say when Cheney was elected
Halliburton had a lot to gain
But man, he had it comin'
Now that Cheney's Got A Gun
The Oval Office ain't never gonna be the same

Cheney's Got A Gun
Cheney's Got A Gun
His dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
Tell me now it's untrue
What did GW's daddy do

He jacked the elections baby
The man has got to be insane
They say the liquor spell that he was under
The lightnin' and the thunder
Knew that Cheney wanted Hussein

Run away, run away from the Valerie Plame
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
richard
response 22 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:38 UTC 2006

cheney should have his gun license suspended and be forced to re-qualify for
it. you can get to the age where you're too old to be handling guns just like
you can get too old to be driving.
aruba
response 23 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:39 UTC 2006

I find the whole thing appalling.  I hope the NRA revokes his membership, at
the very least.  As it was reported on NPR, the man who was shot came up
behind Cheney, and then Cheney, hearing the noise, turned around and fired,
hitting him in the face and neck with shotgun pellets.

Sure, I guess that's an "accident", but it sounds pretty irresponsible to
me.  I would hope, had the man died, that Cheney would be charged with
manslaughter.

I'm no hunter, so maybe the hunters here can asnwer whether that's something
that can happen to anyone, or was it a terribly irresponsible way to use a
gun?
rcurl
response 24 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:44 UTC 2006

The way it was described in the paper is that Cheney was swinging on a 
quail, and fired before he realized the other hunter was in his sights. I 
would be inclined to think this type of accident is not unusual, although 
rare.
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