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Party store? What's a party store? Mark Unseen   Jan 10 17:56 UTC 2006

So naturally, all you Michigan folks know that you can't really say "pop"
outside of the state.... most everywhere else it's called "Soda"

I never thought about this, but Adrienne's step-sister Erin, who is also from
Michigan, is living with us now and the other day she was at work and someone
asked where you could go to cash a check and she said something about a "party
store"

They had NO idea what she was talking about.

Nobody around here knows what a party store is.

For  that matter, we don't have the equivalent of party stores, really. 
Mostly because:

#1 - we have no lottery
#2 - hard liquor is sold by government run ABC stores

stand-alone convenience stores don't exist here.  They're always part of a
gas station.

There is a "mini-grocery" that I pass on the way to/from work every day which
looks like it might qualify as a convenience store - but it's a mexican mini
grocery.
96 responses total.
mcnally
response 1 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 18:00 UTC 2006

If you know what's good for you, don't ask anyone where you can find pasties.
tod
response 2 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 18:04 UTC 2006

I remember buying Pete's Wild Irish Rose on weekends at the Jim Dandy party
stores in NC.  Its truth about the booze though..you gotta hit the ABC store.
You can get beer at Piggly Wiggly or IGA, though.
twenex
response 3 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 18:05 UTC 2006

Re: #1. Hey! Just because YOU'RE a card-carrying member of the American
Anti-Pasty League doesn't mean we ALL have to be!
keesan
response 4 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 18:14 UTC 2006

Tonic.
ric
response 5 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 18:21 UTC 2006

re 2 - Piggly Wiggly and IGA can only be found in very small towns.  I'm sure
sure if there are any of either within 30 miles of Raleigh! :)
tod
response 6 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 18:31 UTC 2006

<blank stare>
scholar
response 7 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 19:00 UTC 2006

in canada, a party store... is a store where you go to buy silly party gags
and flowers and costumes and junk.

no alcohol.  :(
marcvh
response 8 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 19:29 UTC 2006

It's untrue that Michigan is the only place where it's called "pop."
See www.popvssoda.com for statistics; briefly, it's called "pop" across most
of the northern US from Buffalo to Portland, "soda" in the Northeast, 
Southwest, and around St Louis, and "coke" in the south.

It's always seemed kind of silly that they call it a "party store"
instead of what it is, liquor store.  I remember that Meijer used to
call it the "Party Pantry" which seemed even more nondescriptive.  I
suppose that if hard drugs were legalized they would come up with some
nicer phrase for "crack store."

IGA stands for I Get Annoyed.
tod
response 9 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 19:34 UTC 2006

We always said party store and that would mean a place that sold snacks,
booze, magazines, lottery, and sometimes grocery items.
I've got several friends where I grew up that are still running some.
marcvh
response 10 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 19:42 UTC 2006

So what do you call a store that sells hats, streamers, noisemakers and
the like?  A "party supply store"?

Another regional variation I haven't seen studied as much is how people 
refer to freeway names in casual conversation.  If you're talking about
Interstate 17, what do you call it?
 
Michigan:  "Eye 17"
Washington:  "17"
Southern California: "The 17"
kingjon
response 11 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 20:15 UTC 2006

I'd be interested in knowing what all the other classes of roads are called. As
I learned (in Michigan), a United States Highway would be "You-Ess-17", while a
Michigan state highway would be just "17."

gull
response 12 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 20:19 UTC 2006

Re resp:8: To me, the term "liquor store" suggests a store that sells  
*only* liquor, like the state-run "LIQUOR & WINE" stores here in  
Washington.  A party store is  more like a cross between a liquor store  
and a convenience store.  
 
 
Re resp:11: A state highway in Michigan is usually referred to with its 
M-prefex, such as "M-17".  I sometimes heard major highways of all 
classes truncated to just the number, but not very often.  Detroit 
seems to be unique in the state in referring to highways by name 
instead of number.  ("The Fisher," "The Lodge," etc.)  I don't think I 
ever heard "the" used before a number, though.  Californians refer to 
"the 5" but I don't think I ever heard a Michigander refer to "the 75" 
or "the 696". 
edina
response 13 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 20:23 UTC 2006

Hmmm..I refer to Loop 202 as "The 202".  Same way as I referred to "The
Beltway" - not 95/495.
mcnally
response 14 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 20:47 UTC 2006

re #11, 12:  I'm used to using the "M" before Michigan highway names,
too, e.g. "M-120"

Yet another regional linguistic signifier -- how one talks about businesses
that share people's surnames.  For some reason it never seemed odd to me to
go shopping at Meijers (or is that "Meijer's"?) but it was very weird to hear
my co-workers at the auto company talk about working "at Fords" (or perhaps
"at Ford's")
tod
response 15 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 20:51 UTC 2006

re #10
 So what do you call a store that sells hats, streamers, noisemakers and
 the like?  A "party supply store"?
Brokeback Mountain KnickKnack Shack
jadecat
response 16 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 20:55 UTC 2006

There's a whole website devoted to how people from Michigan talk:

http://www.michigannative.com/ma_home.shtml
tod
response 17 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 21:05 UTC 2006

That's an awesome website.  Love it ta death!
marcvh
response 18 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 21:10 UTC 2006

Re #11: I think that "route" is more common.  Nobody sings "Get your kicks
on you ess sixty-six."
tod
response 19 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 21:19 UTC 2006

We were always taught to say the name of the road rather than the number
unless it was an Interstate which was built during Eisenhower.
You didn't say M3, you said Gratiot.
And with Interstate, you'd say just the number: 696, 75..exception being I-94
naftee
response 20 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 21:32 UTC 2006

it's called 'pop' in canada.

god damnit.  don't you guys know canadian english is the only english that
counts ?!
kingjon
response 21 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 21:46 UTC 2006

Re: 12, 14:
Perhaps I'm just thinking of a particular highway, or just mis-remembering.

Re #18: I've heard of Rte. 66 as that, but nothing else. (And "you ess" is just
"U.S." spelled out to make it clear.)

Re #19: Most numbered roads I know of I don't know of any name for. And with
Interstates the only time I *wouldn't* say the "I" is with three-digit ones,
maybe. 
marcvh
response 22 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 22:00 UTC 2006

There are some places where "Route" doesn't distinguish between a U.S. route
and a state route, true.
bhoward
response 23 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 02:18 UTC 2006

Re#16 Jadecat, thanks for the link.  That site is soooo funny.  I've
always had a bit of a confused accent and vocab from moving around
so much but I didn't realize how much the effect Michigan and the
midwest had had on it.

I recently was listening through some old tapes from my radio shows
(WCBN) recorded just before I moved from Ann Arbor and I couldn't
believe how strong a midwest accent I had picked up by then.  I
compared it to a more recent recording and it seems much of the
accent is gone but a lot of the regional vocabulary lingers on.

Caught myself using frigerraider and GROSHries this morning.
rcurl
response 24 of 96: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 05:41 UTC 2006

Even though I've lived in Michigan for some time I still don't know the names
for the Interstates through Detroit. I visualize them as I-94, 96, 75,
375...etc. How far out from Detroit do the names get dropped? (Is there a sign
saying "you are now leaving the Dodge freeway"? - if there is a Dodge.)
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