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edina
Excuse me while I get my chakras aligned... Mark Unseen   Mar 15 20:26 UTC 2006

Todd made a comment in another item about not believing the positive effects
of chiropracty.  It made me wonder what other people felt about more
"alternative" medicines.  I'm divided on chiropracty (especially as my
grandmother tried to push me into going to a chiropractor when I had herniated
discs - tissue damage, not skeletal).  I have friends who swear by
acupuncture, though myself have never tried it.  

Anyone here tried something not mainstream?  If so, what were the results?
76 responses total.
tod
response 1 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 20:44 UTC 2006

I worked with Dr.Martin V. Riccardo out of Chicago to ward off a vampire 
which had followed me from SE Asia.  It worked.  We're talking aura
changing stuff...
nharmon
response 2 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 20:51 UTC 2006

I was slightly nearsighted as a kid and refused to wear my prescribed 
eyeglasses. I now have 20/20 vision.
jep
response 3 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 20:59 UTC 2006

I am not a believer of any kind of alternative medicine.  Give me a 
doctor from a big med school and the latest drugs from the big drug 
companies.  Preferably, tested on animals.  If it's not approved by the 
FDA, leave me out of it.

I discouraged my wife from taking my stepdaughter to a chiropractor 
(and I am hoping I was wrong).  She's pain free... I'm extremely 
excited.  If it works for her long-term, I'll probaly change my views 
on chiropractors.

My stepdaughter's pediatrician has prescribed huge doses of vitamins 
and herbs (Q10 is one of them).  I don't believe at all in any kind of 
herb medication.  If I am sick or injured, I want a medical doctor, not 
a druid or the village wise woman.  I think most people can get all the 
vitamins they need by eating decently.

Acupuncture, astrology, any of that is all the same to me and it's not 
something I'm going to do, or even try.
edina
response 4 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:10 UTC 2006

John, you know acupuncture and astrology are far from teh same thing, right?
bru
response 5 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:10 UTC 2006

There are certain things that new age medicones can do, adn certain things
that they can't.  I do not consider all Chiropractors as new age or as
charlatans.  But finding the good ones is like finding a needle in a haystack.
In my mind, a good chiropractor will do nothing but alighn your bones.
nharmon
response 6 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:13 UTC 2006

Like I've said before, scientologists, voodoo doctors, chiropractors, 
and medicine men can stay the hell away from me.
jadecat
response 7 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:24 UTC 2006

My hubby was recently telling me about an acupunture study he had read
wherein they tested that accuracy of the needle placement. Turns out
random placement returned just as high of a positive result as those of
needles carefully placed based on historical knowlege.

I do think there is something to herbal remedies- what is aspirin but a
manufactured form of willow bark? It's all chemical, and some herbs
contain the chemicals in a natural form that are manufactured in labs.
No real difference. That said- I get quite frustrated with people who
want to go to purely herbal remedies because they're safe. Umm, you can
do just as much damage herbally as with lab-tested medications. So that
I don't understand really.

I'm not quite sure about chiropractors... I know there are injuries that
result from poor posture, and that pinched nerves can be quite painful-
and a chiropractor can help with those. However, I've also heard that in
order to remain pain free one must go to the chiropractor forever- it's
all maintenence no real cure.
tod
response 8 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:38 UTC 2006

I'm a firm believer in the healing power of the South Korean full body massage
parlor...especially when followed by a nice pasta dish.
jadecat
response 9 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 21:41 UTC 2006

Heh...
jep
response 10 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 22:10 UTC 2006

Brooke, I know what both astrology and acupuncture are.  I regard them 
as being equivalent, though.  I regard them both as superstitions.  I 
have the same view of "herbal medicine", pyramid therapy, aroma 
therapy, and magic, and pretty much anything else which might be 
described as "New Age".
happyboy
response 11 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 22:21 UTC 2006

birchbark for headaches.  *herbal* medicine.

red wine for prevention of heart disease...sounds
homeopathic or somethin.

jep, tell your new daughter that it's just a placebo, quick...or
you are LYING to her.  it's like letting her believe in the 
easter bunny or the virgin birth!
happyboy
response 12 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 22:31 UTC 2006

sorry, i meant white willow bark, not birch.
scholar
response 13 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 22:31 UTC 2006

i'm the saddest person in the world.
happyboy
response 14 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 22:33 UTC 2006

actually birch as well.

hey, don't be sad!  have some delicious placebo!
happyboy
response 15 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 22:53 UTC 2006

" if it weren't for the pirin tablets..."


  *swoons*



  ---nathan lane
tod
response 16 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 23:14 UTC 2006

re #12
Too late! I already at the centipede instead of the millipede and now its
burrowout out my esophagus!!!  
happyboy
response 17 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 23:26 UTC 2006

cooell!
rcurl
response 18 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 23:38 UTC 2006

I would not choose "alternative medicine" for any health concern I had, 
but I did once test it. Our daughter kept getting painful warts on the 
bottom of her feet. I read up on this in the Merck Manual (for doctors) 
and it said that such warts were believed to have a psychological 
component. So, our daughter still being young and impressionable, I 
invented a "magic cure", which was the application of a *new* penny to a 
wart for exactly (timed) 60 seconds. This did cure the warts. I do not 
know, of course, whether the warts were about to go away anyway by 
themselves, or something psychological came into play.
tod
response 19 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 00:08 UTC 2006

Nor did your wife tell you that she bleached the bathroom floor and tub...
slynne
response 20 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 00:11 UTC 2006

I have a friend who has been studying herbal medicine. I know that there
are studies that show some of the things work beyond a placebo effect
but I also think in this particular friend's case, the placebo effect is
a big part of why these things work for her. Call it a combination of an
actual theraputic effect and a placebo effect. But they really do seem
to work for her. 

But some of the things she has suggested for me have worked for me in a
way. My favorite line from her when I called her and was really stressed
out and upset and wound up like nobody's business was "Quick! Get some
Chamomile tea. NOW!!! HURRY!!!" You know...Hurry up and calm down. Yeah
ok. But Chamomile tea does calm me down. And she made me this tea for
quitting smoking that is supposed to help with that. It is supposed to
help get the gunk out of the lungs or something. Well, I dont know if
the gunk is getting out of my lungs faster because of the tea or not but
it is pretty tasty and "what the heck"



tod
response 21 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 00:31 UTC 2006

Yea, I have this high maintenance chick friend that thinks Emergen-C from
Trader Joe's is the miracle cure for everything.  I'm cool with organic
stuff...like Tom's of Maine deodorant or something..but if I'm ailing from
something that seems serious then I'm not going to rely on D'Adamo's list of
bullshit vitamin concoctions.  If I'm going to go that route, I might as well
fork over my cash to Tommy Cruise and ask for a total E-Meter audit.
cyklone
response 22 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 02:33 UTC 2006

I used to pound the Emergen-C during my "better living through chemicals" 
phase. I also had warty growths on my knuckles from the octacosanol I was 
mainlining orally. The funny thing is, now that I take far fewer 
supplements, exercise more and eat better, I find myself healthier. Go 
figure.
slynne
response 23 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 02:50 UTC 2006

I have a friend whose kids really like Emergen-C but that is because of
all the sugar in it. I havent ever tried it myself but I will admit that
sometimes when I am sick and whiney, I take large doses of vitamin C
even though I know there isnt really any proof that it makes a cold go
away faster so I can understand the inclination to have something like
that around. It might not make my cold go away faster but it makes me
feel less helpless and it makes me feel better in the same way that soup
or tea does. 
rcurl
response 24 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 06:31 UTC 2006

A Nobel winner also thought magadoses of vitamin C would cure colds. A
controlled experiment has been done, and no significant effect was observed.

Re #19: we were already being scrupulously clean and sanitizing, and did not
change those procedures during my experiment. 
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