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Grex > Agora47 > #208: Does grex need to improve or is it perfect? | |
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mynxcat
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Does grex need to improve or is it perfect?
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Dec 5 03:06 UTC 2003 |
What do you perceive as grex's shortcomings (both technical and
community-wise)? What about grex appeals to you the most? What improvements
do you want to see and why? If you think Grex is perfect, why?
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gelinas
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response 1 of 52:
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Dec 5 04:50 UTC 2003 |
"There is always room for improvement."
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slynne
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response 2 of 52:
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Dec 5 05:20 UTC 2003 |
Sure, there is always room for improvement. But, I have to say that for
the most part, I kind of like grex the way it is.
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mynxcat
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response 3 of 52:
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Dec 5 15:06 UTC 2003 |
Suggestions....
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slynne
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response 4 of 52:
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Dec 5 15:13 UTC 2003 |
Well, we could improve the hardware (so things are faster). I
understand this is already in the works.
We can try to attract some interesting new people into the conferences
and/or party. This is pretty hard. I am not exactly sure how to do
this.
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mynxcat
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response 5 of 52:
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Dec 5 15:24 UTC 2003 |
That's a good start. We are discussing the latter point in coop at
this moment. So if you have ideas, or are interested in what people's
ideas are, that's a good place to start. I want to say it's item 47,
or thereabouts.
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slynne
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response 6 of 52:
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Dec 5 15:42 UTC 2003 |
Yes, I have been reading that item. :)
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jep
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response 7 of 52:
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Dec 5 15:46 UTC 2003 |
Technically, I'm mainly frustrated with Grex's speed. I like the
interfaces and the system itself. There are some things I'd like to
see, such as POP mail. If passwords are still being expired
periodically, they shouldn't be, but the staff likes crud like that and
I'm never going to win any battles on the subject. Life will go on.
Socially, Grex is open to anyone but still manages not to be a slime
pit somehow. I don't understand how this happens, but it works. There
are quite a few local social events, such as the weekly walk, Board
meetings, and Grexpeditions, so that if you can make it to Ann Arbor
you can meet some of the people you talk to on-line.
Grex is a community. No community anywhere is completely open to
anyone who happens by. It is possible to join Grex's community, but I
don't know how to make it easy, and am not sure it ought to be easier
than it is.
I'm pretty happy with Grex as it is. That's why I keep coming back.
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mynxcat
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response 8 of 52:
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Dec 5 16:07 UTC 2003 |
I like the interfaces too. At least backtalk. I prefer it to the new-
fangled discussion boards out there that make it hard to follow items.
Pico could have been a little more intuitive, but I'm used to it now.
Sometimes, when I see a new user post in bbs, and it looks like they
were having trouble with it, I wish it was simpler. I know it took me
a while to get used to the interface, and I guess I was bored enough
to keep trying. :)
Community wise, you know my stand :) But to be fair, I personally have
been pretty happy with the acceptance I've had from most
members/users. Improvements could be made, true, and they'll take
time, but I'd like it not to stagnate, which I think it has/had.
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jp2
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response 9 of 52:
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Dec 5 16:43 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 10 of 52:
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Dec 5 17:25 UTC 2003 |
I don't know if POP *and* IMAP are necessary. If we decide to supply
IMAP access, do we really need POP?
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jp2
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response 11 of 52:
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Dec 5 18:05 UTC 2003 |
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gelinas
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response 12 of 52:
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Dec 5 19:06 UTC 2003 |
(I use both on my main mail box. IMAP to delete messages I don't want on
my disk at all, and POP to get the ones I do want. Actually, I use Pine and
MH.)
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jp2
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response 13 of 52:
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Dec 5 20:01 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 14 of 52:
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Dec 5 20:25 UTC 2003 |
I wasn't arguing from a system load standpoint, I just don't believe in
having any more ports open than necessary. ;>
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jp2
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response 15 of 52:
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Dec 5 20:48 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 16 of 52:
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Dec 5 20:56 UTC 2003 |
True. I just looked at the email program on my PDA, and it only seems
to support POP.
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katie
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response 17 of 52:
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Dec 5 21:25 UTC 2003 |
It bums me that my email can't function like everybody else's (can't
get attachments, etc)\
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krj
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response 18 of 52:
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Dec 5 22:00 UTC 2003 |
Another vote for improving the speed of conferencing via Backtalk.
Cafe Utne runs a similar interface (Motet, derived from Picospan via
the Well) and is nice and crisp, and yes I know they've got thousands
of extra dollars to spend. Grex's Backtalk suffers sadly in comparison.
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jep
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response 19 of 52:
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Dec 5 22:01 UTC 2003 |
Backtalk is much, much faster on M-Net, which lives hand to mouth. M-
Net's bank account is often reported in the tens of dollars.
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mynxcat
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response 20 of 52:
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Dec 5 22:16 UTC 2003 |
I like backtalk's interface, but it could be faster. I vouch for mnet's faster
backtalk.
katie - do you mean your email on grex?
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katie
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response 21 of 52:
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Dec 5 22:18 UTC 2003 |
Yes, it's the only email I have. Attachments arrive as screenfuls of
garbage characters, with no way to interrupt it.
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null
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response 22 of 52:
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Dec 6 01:06 UTC 2003 |
I wish backtalk here ran over a secure connection so passwords wouldn't
be sent in plaintext.
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tod
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response 23 of 52:
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Dec 6 01:16 UTC 2003 |
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richard
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response 24 of 52:
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Dec 6 03:06 UTC 2003 |
Grex's reason d'etre is its conferences. But every time I suggest grex
re-organizing its conferences, eliminating dead or dormant ones, and combining
redundant ones (of which there are more than a few convering the same
material), I get shot down. People seem to want Grex to be a museum, and even
if a conf hasn't had a post in several years, keep it around JUST IN CASE.
I still think Grex needs to re-organize its conferences as I suggested, and
develop a new conferencing menu. There are too many people who come to grex
and just use party and don't even realize there are conferences, or they think
Agora is the only conference.
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