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sabre
Give me one good reason why liberals aren't idiots. Mark Unseen   Oct 21 02:49 UTC 2003

Just one
58 responses total.
scott
response 1 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 03:10 UTC 2003

1.  sabre is not a liberal.
md
response 2 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 03:32 UTC 2003

No, that proves only that all idiots aren't liberals.  

But see, *I* think sabre really is a liberal and just wants to prove he 
can get Grexers' panties in a bunch by being insulting, abusive and 
right-wing sounding.  (I'd've thought that's something you could train 
a dog to do, but I guess it isn't so easy after all.  It freakin' 
impossible for "sabre," at any rate.)  Anyway, if my theory is right, 
then yes, there's at least one instance of a liberal idiot.

Which side has more idiots, liberals or conservatives?  
dah
response 3 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 03:53 UTC 2003

Well, my theory about sabre, and I AM Northrop Fucking Frye, is that 
he's in college as evidenced by his big technical words but he's still 
a beer drinker.
russ
response 4 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 04:20 UTC 2003

Most liberals have to be smarter than sabre, because they aren't dumb
enough to post shit like this.  This makes them, if not non-idiots,
at least a higher grade of retard.
kenscann
response 5 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 09:20 UTC 2003

i get the impression he's just trying to stir shit up a bit!...bored probably
jp2
response 6 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 10:05 UTC 2003

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md
response 7 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 12:05 UTC 2003

That's what I said in response #2, stupid.
remmers
response 8 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 12:06 UTC 2003

Define "idiot".
md
response 9 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 12:21 UTC 2003

[Appearing in a sabre item, that's actually very funny.]
jp2
response 10 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 12:38 UTC 2003

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janc
response 11 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 13:53 UTC 2003

I think it would help if you could point out a conservative who is not
an idiot, just so we could have an idea of what sort of person it is
that you have in mind.

You can look around any shopping mall and find hundreds of people with
usuable IQs, many of them liberals.  But finding a person that couldn't
be called an idiot by a rude child is a bit harder.

If you're going to define everyone as an idiot, then you've just removed
the concept from the domain of things worth talking about.  It's a
classification that fails to classify anyone, and is pure verbal noise.
If you're going to accept a more normal definition of the term, then
finding a liberal that is not a idiot is pretty easy.  They constitute
about half the population of America, and better than half the
population of Grex.
janc
response 12 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 14:00 UTC 2003

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janc
response 13 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 14:03 UTC 2003

Kendra typed' th'at''';

she is helping me type now too.  She's not an idiot, but her political
opinions are a little unformed.  However, she says "thank you" when you
wipe her nose, which is more than I can say for a lot of people.
gull
response 14 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 15:01 UTC 2003

I tend to assume idiots are pretty evenly distributed through the
population.  That would mean most of them are probably "swing voters".
cross
response 15 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 15:11 UTC 2003

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remmers
response 16 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 16:05 UTC 2003

Conservatives who are not idiots:  William Safire, George Will.

They can be real asses at times, but that's a different job category.
rcurl
response 17 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 16:35 UTC 2003

They do use big words, so I guess that qualifies them as non-idiots.
sabre
response 18 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 17:13 UTC 2003

Most liberals are idiots in classification #2
The others fit catergory #1 pf this definition quite nicely

Etymology: Middle English, from Latin idiota ignorant person, from Greek
idiOtEs one in a private station, layman, ignorant person, from idios one's
own, private; akin to Latin suus one's own -- more at SUICIDE
Date: 14th century
1 : a person affected with idiocy; especially : a feebleminded person having
a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete custodial care
2 : a foolish or stupid person

There are exceptions however. Slick Willy being the prime example.
I would classify him as idiot-savant(definition given for remmers sake)
Afer all..a MORON as stupid as him did have the gift of gab that got him
elected to the world's most powerful office twice.

Etymology: French, literally, learned idiot
Date: 1927
1 : a mentally defective person who exhibits exceptional skill or brilliance
in some limited field
2 : a person who is highly knowledgeable about one subject but knows little
about anything else 

He fits category #2 nicely.
rcurl
response 19 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 17:17 UTC 2003

I think sabre misunderstands what is a liberal. Here is the definition,
plus one that seems to apply to him:

liberal (adj).  1. Possessing or manifesting a free and generous heart; 
bountiful. 2. Appropriate or fitting for a broad and enlightened mind. 3.
Free from narrowness, bigotry, or bondage to authority or creed, as in
religion; inclined to democratic or republican ideas, as opposed to
monarchical or aristocratic, as in politics; broad, popular, progressive. 

illiberal (adj.). 1. Not liberal; not generous in giving; parsimonious. 2.
Narrow-minded. 3. Lacking breadth of culture; hence, vulgar. 

sabre
response 20 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 17:47 UTC 2003

rcurl you fit category #1 of the definition for idiot.
rcurl
response 21 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 19:18 UTC 2003

Typical illiberal sabre.
gull
response 22 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 19:26 UTC 2003

Re #16: I'd agree with that.  While I might not agree with those two all
the time, I always get the impression that they've thought through their
position carefully and that they're taking it because they arrived at it
intellectually, not because it's shocking or fits a party line.  This is
in stark contrast to newer conservative columnists like Ann Coulter.

George Will's column about the California Recall Election outcome was
scathingly anti-recall and anti-Arnold.
jaklumen
response 23 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 01:36 UTC 2003

resp:14 does what you mean by "swing voters" illict a "bite me" 
response?
sabre
response 24 of 58: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 07:28 UTC 2003

It means after halloween we're gonna have some pumpkin pie!
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