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polytarp
Free Speech Mark Unseen   Jan 24 01:44 UTC 2004

In the past hour, my willcome account was killed, though I don't know by whom
or for what.  However, I suspect this conversation had something to do with
it:

Telegram from gelinas (root) on ttyq4 at 20:03 EST ...
please stop re-entering the same item, over and over, in agora
EOF (gelinas)
Telegram to ttyq4...
Msg: It's Greek Week.
SENT
Telegram from gelinas (root) on ttyq4 at 20:03 EST ...
That is no excuse.  Please stop.
EOF (gelinas)

Of course, it wasn't an excuse.  I don't need an excuse to help with Greek
Week, an exciting even sponsored by the silly hat fund meant to revive and
review Grex's Greek origins.  For some reason, gelinas had a problem with
this, and, apparently, abridged my Grexist freedom of speech to stop it. 
Please fix this.
79 responses total.
dah
response 1 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:19 UTC 2004

Apparently, gelinas is willing to lie to get his way:

" I just locked willcome's account because of his script that created some
one
 hundred new items in agora."

Anyone can see that I didn't post anything close to one hundred items.
glenda
response 2 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:21 UTC 2004

Sorry, but I think that 72 copies of the entire text of Plato's Republic is
closer to one hundred items than it is closer to once.
dah
response 3 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:23 UTC 2004

I think gelinas's statement's closer to a lie than the truth.
gelinas
response 4 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:39 UTC 2004

I didn't count the items.  I substracted the last item number I saw from
the last item number I remembered.
dah
response 5 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:44 UTC 2004

Are you drunk?  I ask only because you seem to talk about beer for hours in
party, and use words like "substracted".  Maybe that's why you abridged my
right to free speech.
naftee
response 6 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 04:43 UTC 2004

heh, yeah, "GreX staffer gets caught drunk on Job"

(biblical reference courtesy for J. Gelinas)
albaugh
response 7 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 05:59 UTC 2004

I don't just think - I completely know - that willcome's actions were those
of a total asshole, and that said account must never be unlocked, ever, for
any reason whatsoever.  If it is of any consolation, let it be known that s/he
went out in a blaze of futile stupidity.
jaklumen
response 8 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 11:42 UTC 2004

Suddenly I'm that much more glad I'm not reading agora anymore :)
ryan
response 9 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 16:43 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

ryan
response 10 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 16:45 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

janc
response 11 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 17:00 UTC 2004

I feel Joe's actions were entirely appropriate and would have done the same
in his place.
scott
response 12 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 17:26 UTC 2004

Ditto.
remmers
response 13 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 17:32 UTC 2004

Same here.
cross
response 14 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 18:46 UTC 2004

I did do the same thing in Joe's place once, with the same user, so yeah,
I concur.
naftee
response 15 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:00 UTC 2004

Acutually, joe was far less enthusiastic with locking accounts than you were.
richard
response 16 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:12 UTC 2004

I agree and since all those items have the same text, I think you could kill
all but one of them and not be reasonably accused of censorship.  I don't like
the kill command, I think moderators shouldn't have it, but cfadmin and root
needs to have it for such situations
naftee
response 17 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:01 UTC 2004

You forgot about "retire" again.  That's why you're uncomfortable.
md
response 18 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:19 UTC 2004

I'd've deleted all the items and killed the account and never given it 
a second thought.  Of course, I also edited dah's responses in the mnet 
Agora cf to make it sound like he was calling himself an asshole, so 
I'm a terrible example.  I would hope nobody on Grex would ever do such 
a thing.  That would be totally reprehensible in a conference like 
Agora on Grex.  So don't do it.  I mean it.

I should add that when I saw the first Plato's Republic item, I was 
hoping the others would each be another classic, like Moby Dick, War 
and Peace, Paradise Lost, Pride and Prejudice, and so on.  That would 
have been cool in a geeky way.  But then I found out they were all the 
same and so just geeky and uncool.
keesan
response 19 of 79: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:33 UTC 2004

Can we decide to put a size limit on all responses and automatically (or
manually) kill anything that exceeds the limit, as well as all copies of
anything entered in more than 2 copies (to allow for errors)?  Would this
require a member vote?  Five pages of text seems like a reasonable limit to
me (25 line pages).  I tend not to read things longer than that anyway.
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