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krj
Religious Item #2: The Anglican Church Mark Unseen   Oct 13 20:19 UTC 2003

News reports -- forgive me for not pasting in a link -- are that the 
Anglican Church is nearing a schism over the liberal US wing's 
insistence on consecrating an openly gay bishop.  This is seen 
as intolerable by the conservatives in the church, particularly
those in Africa.
 
I've always been intensely curious about the ideological foundations
of the Anglican Church.  Somehow the desire of King Henry to get a 
divorce seems like a shaky foundation for a religious community, 
and the idea of the Queen of England as a figure with a religious 
role strikes me as a relic of the medieval period.
 
Disclosure, again: I was raised Lutheran and I'm sure that conveys 
all sorts of biases.
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johnnie
response 1 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 20:36 UTC 2003

Here's an article on the brew-ha-ha:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,1061368,00.html
krj
response 2 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 20:50 UTC 2003

I have often loved the quote I found on an Anglican web page:
 
"Jesus came to take away your sins, not your mind."
edina
response 3 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 20:54 UTC 2003

Aah the great Lutheran church.  The ideology of potlucks and jello salad.
mcnally
response 4 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 21:01 UTC 2003

  (I'm sure there's a Garrison Keillor-wannabe item *somewhere* on Grex.
  Let's use this one for discussing the Anglicans..)
sabre
response 5 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 22:58 UTC 2003

The word for "heretic" has it's roots in the greek word heresis.This word
means sect or denomenation. All you need for salvation is Jesus. All
denomenations are heresy. Paul addressed the issue of division in 1st cor.
in the first chapter. No matter what"church"(this term by the way has it's
roots in the word circe..a sorceress)you attend you will go to the lake of
fire if you don't have Jesus.
cross
response 6 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 15:57 UTC 2003

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sabre
response 7 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 15:59 UTC 2003

A comment like that from a man named cross? tisk tisk.
lynne
response 8 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 16:22 UTC 2003

re 2:  Oooh.  That's a good one.
cross
response 9 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 17:59 UTC 2003

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janc
response 10 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 18:41 UTC 2003

I don't know anything about Anglicans, but I just read the article
above. I like the fact that the church leaders are called "Primates". 
Apparantly many of the Primates are still carrying on the fight against
Darwinism, being, for some reason, particularly sensitive to the
accusation that they are related to monkeys.
krj
response 11 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 19:07 UTC 2003

To the best of my knowledge, the Anglicans do not oppose the 
teaching of evolution, nor are they a fundamentalist denomination.
See the quote in my resp:2 from one of the Anglican web pages.
jep
response 12 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 19:55 UTC 2003

I think the origin of King Henry VIII's authority to found his own 
church is the Divine Right of Kings.  No king could rule if it were 
against the will of God.  Apparently Henry couldn't found his own 
church if it were against the will of God.  It was the will of God that 
Henry rule in England.  Henry had God in his pocket, one might say.
bru
response 13 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 21:25 UTC 2003

What you got against pot;ucks and jello salad?
tod
response 14 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 21:35 UTC 2003

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cross
response 15 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 00:53 UTC 2003

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jaklumen
response 16 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 04:04 UTC 2003

Hmmm, I've done a few potlucks and jello salad, just not at an 
Anglican church.
cross
response 17 of 45: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 16:24 UTC 2003

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