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naftee
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New fair witness of the language conference!
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Nov 30 01:14 UTC 2003 |
I want to be fairwitness of the language conference. rcurl, one of the
current fairwitnesses, mentioned that he was going to forget an item that was
not in English, and linked it to language only after the promptings of another
user. This is item 198 in Agora. If a fairwitness of a language conference
is not even interested in other languages he should be replaced. I volunteer
to replace rcurl as fairwitness of the language conference.
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mary
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response 1 of 78:
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Nov 30 13:12 UTC 2003 |
So what you need to do is go to the language conference
and make your case to those who use the conference. If
you get a lot of support then we go to step two. I don't
really know what step two is because we've never, to my
memory, had that happen before.
I suspect you'll not be able to find much support.
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davel
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response 2 of 78:
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Dec 1 03:22 UTC 2003 |
I put in a suggestion to Rane on that item, because I suspected (correctly,
apparently) that he was asleep at the switch. He promptly linked the item.
I see no evidence whatsoever in the discussion that he "is not even interested
in other languages", & there's quite a bit of evidence lying around to the
contrary. Forgetting an item consisting, by intention, of discussion in a
language one doesn't know isn't, prima facie, evidence of much beyond
consciousness of a lack of unlimited time.
I suspect Mary's last sentence is entirely correct, but what do I know?
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naftee
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response 3 of 78:
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Dec 1 03:59 UTC 2003 |
Well, my primary reason for volunteering to be FW or co-FW of that conference
is primarily because there isn't a large userbase of users reading that
conference, and I want to change that. and if rcurl want's to stay on, that's
fine with me; the more the merrier.
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gelinas
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response 4 of 78:
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Dec 1 04:01 UTC 2003 |
Just out of curiousity, how would you propose to expand the use of that
conference?
I'm also curious about how you determine the number of people using it.
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glenda
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response 5 of 78:
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Dec 1 04:01 UTC 2003 |
I also forgot the item in agora. I will read it in the language cf. There
is no need to read an item twice. I always forget items in agora that have
been linked to another cf. Does that mean that I should be removed as fw to
the cf's that I am fw in? What a crock.
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naftee
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response 6 of 78:
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Dec 1 04:09 UTC 2003 |
re 4
Backtalk has a way to determine the number of participants in a conference.
Specifically, to expand a conference, the best way is to advertise about it,
enter some new items (restarting the conference is a horrible way to revive
it) and spark some new interest in the older items. I also plan on changing
both the backtalk (web) and command-line interface; specifically, simple
commands that users can type to get information (check out the UNIX conference
on m-net, probably the best example of this). But those are the main ideas.
re 5 I also use the forget command to read items only once. But the context
in which rcurl used the statement indicated that he wanted to forget the only
incident of the item (remember, it wasn't linked when he was about to forget
it) and therefore he wasn't interested in it.
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remmers
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response 7 of 78:
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Dec 1 12:09 UTC 2003 |
As Mary indicated in resp:1, the first step would be to discuss your
proposals in the language conference.
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davel
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response 8 of 78:
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Dec 1 13:40 UTC 2003 |
Hmm. Neither advertising a conference nor entering new items (or responses)
requires being FW. Email to Rane, detailing suggestions for interface
changes, might get those and (if not mixed with your usual drivel) would
almost certainly be considered.
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naftee
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response 9 of 78:
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Dec 1 23:44 UTC 2003 |
re 7 There is not an active userbase in the language conference currently.
I intend to create one.
re 8 Both your sentences lack any truth.
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davel
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response 10 of 78:
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Dec 2 02:37 UTC 2003 |
So you're saying that you are FW of coop, now? You entered this item.
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rcurl
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response 11 of 78:
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Dec 2 03:15 UTC 2003 |
How would you create "an active userbase" in language?
My practice is to link items to language when some interest is shown.
either by me personally or by others. Anyone can make the suggestion
if I don't. But I agree this discussion should be in language, so I
will link it there.
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naftee
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response 12 of 78:
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Dec 2 04:00 UTC 2003 |
re 10 I said nothing of the sort. Going back to response #8, doing proper
advertising of a conference requires being a FW. Also, the interface needs
work. Please read response #6. E-mailing suggestions might be done, as you
mentioned in that response, but I'm interested in things that actually happen.
re 11 Please read response #6. Thanks for linking this item; I'll freeze the
one I created.
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gelinas
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response 13 of 78:
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Dec 2 04:03 UTC 2003 |
I don't agree the interface needs work. What are your suggestions?
What do you consider "proper advertising"? I've promoted specific conferences
more than once, and I've never been an FW on this system.
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rcurl
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response 14 of 78:
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Dec 2 06:48 UTC 2003 |
I would welcome active (and appropriate) participation from naftee in
the language conference, as well as specific suggestions for its
management.
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willcome
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response 15 of 78:
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Dec 2 07:58 UTC 2003 |
I, for one, fully support naftee's bid to coup d'etat rcurl (and his ass).
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