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jep
alcoholic beverages Mark Unseen   May 29 02:37 UTC 2002

This item is for discussing alcoholic beverages.  What do you like?  
Wine, beer, liquor?  What do you hate?  Ever make your own?
74 responses total.
jep
response 1 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 03:03 UTC 2002

I am a light drinker.  Normally a beer in the evening is enough for 
me.  Two makes me unfit to drive, three is more than I'm likely to have 
under normal circumstances.

Tonight I stopped by the Merchant of Vino, and, on a whim, browsing the 
beer, when an employee asked if he could help me, I asked if they carry 
mead.  I'm reading The Hobbit to my son for the second time, and mead 
is mentioned several times.

In college, I had a professor of literature from whom I took a couple 
of Arthurian Romance classes.  She told one of my classes that a group 
of her classmates had ordered mead, imported from England, in order to 
try it.  She said it tasted like what it is, spoiled honey.  She said 
it was awful.

The Merchant of Vino carries several brands of mead.  I picked what 
they recommended, Chaucer's.  It was $12 for the bottle.  When I got 
hmoe, I slipped it into the freezer for a couple of hours, making sure 
it was cold, before opening it.  While I was paying for it, another 
customer told me to open it when I and my friends could drink it all, 
as it wouldn't keep well. I will see about that.

I've waited for 20 years to try mead, so I decided, while reading to my 
son before his bedtime, that that was long enough to wait.  Anyway, 
whom would I ask to join me?  So I opened it, and poured a little for 
John, and, expecting the worst, sat down to read to him, and drink some 
mead.

It's very sweet, but only tasted a little like honey; more in the 
aftertaste than the flavor when I drank it.  It wasn't awful at all.  
Clearly I didn't get what my professor had tried.  I wouldn't probably 
pick anything tasting that sweet if I were choosing to drink wine.  
(I'm not much of a wine drinker, but that's not what I'd probably 
pick.)  I was very pleasantly surprised; I half expected to have to 
spit it out when I took my first taste.

I drank about half the bottle by the time I read my son his 10 pages of 
The Hobbit.  He took a couple of sips, too, and liked it all right, but 
he didn't want more than that.  I finished his off, too.

After half the bottle, and an hour after I stopped, I'm still tipsy, 
and still wouldn't drive.  I'm a prudent drunk, I guess.

I'm going to try some of the other meads at Merchant of Vino in 
upcoming weeks.  Once I finish off what I already got.  I sealed it 
with a Baggie and a rubber band.  If anyone is really anxious to try 
mead, and can make it to Tecumseh, let me know and we'll arrange 
something.
scott
response 2 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 03:11 UTC 2002

I brew my own beer, which gives a bit of a variety.
jep
response 3 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 03:25 UTC 2002

What kind(s) do you brew, Scott?  Is it difficult to get started doing 
that?
glenda
response 4 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 03:27 UTC 2002

I love mead and only drink it a glass at a time.  I have kept it, capped, in
the refrigerator for a few months without noticable degredation.  Chaucer's
is good.  My prefered brand is made by a member of the SCA.  Unfortunately
he moved from Ann Arbor and I lost touch.  Commerical brands, I prefer a
Polish mead.  I forget the name and brand, but it comes in a distinctive red
glazed clay sort of bulb shaped bottle.  I haven't seen it in a few years so
get Chaucer's when the mood strikes.

I can't drink beer, am allergic to brewer's yeast.  I like some mixed drinks
and most wines with Margaritas being the favorite.  I don't drink very often.
Being part Native American and knowing that I have an addictive personality
I keep a very close watch on where, when and how much.  

Got tipsy once on purpose in a family setting to see how I handled it.  Didn't
like it, did it again to see how much it would take - more than I am willing
to drink in one sitting.  The only other time I came close tipped me off that
I was pregnant with Damon.  Got tipsy on the Margarita at Chi Chi's, never
had before.
jep
response 5 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 03:41 UTC 2002

A dozen years ago I knew someone who brewed his own beer.  He got me to 
switch from Budweiser to other beers, and turned me onto Bass & C Pale 
Ale.  Nowadays it's found in grocery stores, but then I had to look 
around to find a party store in my area that carried it.

Around that time, I visited Rochester and spent some time in a brew 
pub.  I became fond of a beer they called "bitters".  It was 
wonderful.  I went for years before I found anything like it.

The Merchant of Vino has several ESB beers, that's "extra special 
bitters".  I guess advertising beer as "bitters" isn't very effective.  
I went there tonight to get some ESB beer; that's when it occurred to 
me that'd be the place to ask about mead.

Tonight the ESBs I got were Belks and Red Hook.  I've also tried 
Arcadian ESB (Arcadia ESB?), which is made in Michigan.  They might 
have one other I've gotten before.  I'll never be a connoisseur as I 
can't remember which I've had.  It's too long between six-packs anyway; 
I might drink one in a week or two and take two or three months for the 
next.  I keep trying what I think are different ones, and I like them 
very much, but they're new every time.
jep
response 6 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 03:44 UTC 2002

re #4: Can you recommend any mead which isn't so sweet?  I've just been 
browsing WWW sites, and some of them mention that mead can be either 
dry or sweet.  They say a lot of the commercial ones are so sweet 
they're cloying (with which assessment I agree, about Chaucer's anyway).

Also, have you any idea what my professor tried, or what kind she 
tried?  Maybe I should try to remember her name and find out her e-mail 
address, and ask her.
glenda
response 7 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 11:40 UTC 2002

The Polish that I like isn't as sweet as Chaucer's.  I wish I could remember
the brand name.  I quit buying it when I was getting it from my friend and
haven't seen it since he moved.  I don't drink mead often, a bottle every year
or three so haven't tried any of the others.  I'll check Merchant of Vino and
Big Ten Party Store to see if either of them have it.
scott
response 8 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 11:47 UTC 2002

I joined a brewing coop, http://www.northstatebrewers.org , and we do some
interesting stuff.  It's not that hard to get started; I've been playing
around with one gallon recipes which don't require much in the way of
equipment.

It's a nice way to get good beer quite cheaply.
jep
response 9 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 12:05 UTC 2002

re #7: Thanks!  If you find out the name, I'll probably try it some day.

re #8: Do you make beer from a kit or package, or do you add your own 
hops, malt, etc.?  How long does it take to make beer?  How many 
different kinds have you made?
scott
response 10 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 16:18 UTC 2002

Jep, I could show you some time.  You might do a web search on homebrewing
to get basic data.  

I myself use packaged malt (syrup or dried) and then add hops to fit my own
preferences.
jep
response 11 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 17:05 UTC 2002

I've read some WWW pages, but they tend to be written by and for
hard-core enthusiasts for whom brewing is their lifestyle.  I might try 
home brewing myself some day but I'd be doing it in a very casual way.  
It sounds like what you're doing.  That's where my interest comes from 
in what you're doing.
slynne
response 12 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 18:00 UTC 2002

What would beer taste like if it didnt have hops. I have always 
wondered that. 

Anyhow, I like all of the usual drinks. I dont drink much but I am 
obsessive about keeping alcohol in my house. I always make sure I have 
the following in my liquor cabinet: 

Vodka
Gin
Bourbon
Tequila
Rum
Kahlua
Bailey's
Dry Vermouth
Sweet Vermouth
Bloody Mary mix
Marguarita Mix
Can of pineapple juice
Bottle of Cranberry juice
Sour Mix
olives
cherries


I replace the vodka and the tequila most often. (I think I went through 
two bottles of tequila in the last 18 months and one bottle of vodka). 
I have all kinds of other bottles of weird things that I have received 
as gifts. Lots of different kinds of coffee liqueurs, some 180 proof 
rum and a few other things I just havent gotten around to trying. 

I dont really know why I like to keep so much booze around but it does 
come in handy when people drop by unexpectedly because I can offer them 
a drink.
jep
response 13 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 19:13 UTC 2002

I used to like gin and tonics.  I also used to like Scotch and soda 
which I drank from a Florence flask.  It's been a long time since I've 
had either, and I haven't missed them all that much.

I also make some Irish coffee occasionally (about annually).  
slynne
response 14 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 19:38 UTC 2002

Oh wow. I havent had a gin a tonic in a long time. I should stop at the 
store and get some tonic because I have a friend coming from California 
who likes gin and tonics. 
jep
response 15 of 74: Mark Unseen   May 29 20:31 UTC 2002

A gin and tonic does sound kind of good to me right now.

I'm going to be responsible if we all turn into alcoholics as a result 
of this item.
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