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Pots & Pans Item Mark Unseen   Dec 4 12:20 UTC 2002

This is the pots & pans items!  Talk here about copper vs. stainless vs.
aluminum, hollow vs. wood vs. plastic handles, metal vs. clear lids, &
more!
59 responses total.
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response 1 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 12:25 UTC 2002

I don't have any saucier-type pans (wide top, smaller-diameter bottom)
or any modern non-stick (vs. cast iron) pans.  A cookbook i recently
got and (mostly) like the advice in suggests having one saucier pan (for
sauces & such) and one non-stick pan (for eggs).

A local store has a dropping-the-line sale on a 2 Qt. non-stick saucier.

Should i be looking to buy, or dismissing it as yet-another-piece-of-
clutter-to-waste-money-on?
scott
response 2 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 13:57 UTC 2002

I really like having a non-stick skillet for eggs and pancakes - even the
cheapo I bought years ago gets more use than my cast-iron skillet.

I don't see much point to saucier pans, with a small bottom.  More surface
area means better coupling to stove burner, and therefore greater efficiency.
cmcgee
response 3 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 13:58 UTC 2002

I have a heavy stainless steel pan with a 4 in bottom diameter, 2 in deep,
1 pint capacity.  Revereware,with extra-thick disk on bottom.

I use it all the time for small amounts of sauces, cocoa, etc because it keeps
the volume of liquid deep enough that it can cook without evaporating too
fast.
orinoco
response 4 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 19:07 UTC 2002

A saucier pan would be good for that too, I guess.  But other than that, they
strike me as pretty useless to have at home.  How often do you really make
restaurant-style sauces?  Spaghetti sauce and such work just as well in a
normal pot.  

I like non-stick pans better than cast-iron ones, but I think that's just
because they're what I'm used to.  
slynne
response 5 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 19:23 UTC 2002

I have never even heard of a saucier pan before. 

I have one really good sauce pan that I just bought recently. It is 
made by a company called All Clad and I really like it. It has a firm 
metal handle (that always stays cool). I think I might have finally 
bought a pot where the handle wont fall off. The pan has a stainless 
steel inside which I like because it is easy to clean. 

I dont like non-stick pans because I have heard that if you ever burn 
anything in them, they release a gas that can kill birds that live in 
the house. Since I have a bird but also because that doesnt sound very 
nice and because I tend to burn things, I have decided just to go with 
cast iron. It works for me!
slynne
response 6 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 19:30 UTC 2002

Do you make a lot of sauces, i? I guess if you do, it might be worth it 
to you to invest in such a pan especially if you arent prone to burning 
things. From what I understand, non stick pans are really easy to 
clean. 
keesan
response 7 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 20:59 UTC 2002

Teflon only releases toxic gases at high temperatures, but burning oil also
releases toxic gases.  I don't use nonstick frying pans (cast iron works
perfectly though a bit slowly) but I have a nonstick bread machine pan and
a nonstick pressure cooker.  These don't have much chance to overheat.
mary
response 8 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 03:33 UTC 2002

A saucier is especially nice for cooking any liquid with
the potential to burn as you don't have any bottom-meets-
the-side-and-the-whisk-won't-reach-there issues.  The bottom
of my three quart exactly matches my burner size and the
aluminium core goes up some for nice even heating.  But
All-Clad is a bit pricey.  For this piece I like the
stainless, inside and out, again, to take whisking.
keesan
response 9 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 15:51 UTC 2002

Would a round-bottomed wok work for this?  Or a microwave oven on low?
orinoco
response 10 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 16:08 UTC 2002

Food doesn't brown in a microwave the same way it does on the stove.  For some
recipes, that makes a difference.
keesan
response 11 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 23:31 UTC 2002

For sauces?
cmcgee
response 12 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 20:41 UTC 2002

yes, some basic sauces require you to brown the flour and fat before you add
the liquid.  It's called a roux.
keesan
response 13 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 21:49 UTC 2002

Can't you brown flour and fat in a microwave oven?  We can burn our peanuts
in it.
jmsaul
response 14 of 59: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 23:15 UTC 2002

That's one of your rare, deadpan jokes, right?  I figured I'd better point
that out before people take it seriously.
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