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rcurl
Increasing User Disk Space Maximum Mark Unseen   Oct 19 16:27 UTC 1998

I received a gentle reminder that my disk use had exceeded 1 MB, and was
asked to reduce it. I recall, though, that disk cost has gotten pretty
affordable, so offered (tongue in cheek) to buy Grex another MB of disk
for my use. I would donate the cost - all $0.075 worth. 

Seriously, though, should we consider increasing the maximum disk space
per user? I do clear out my space periodicially, and am conscious of the
potential problem, but with increased use of the system for various purposes,
more space for everyone would seem logical - and affordable. 

What do you think?
111 responses total.
cmcgee
response 1 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 20:44 UTC 1998

I think I was just lazy and cluttered.  I too received the message, and set
about cleaning out my (carefully foldered) mail area.  Way too many messages
from the Grex catsitting network were bulking up my storage area.  Along with
way too many emails from my cousin, etc, etc.  I don't think I want to see
us buy storage space when we have other hardware needs, and no real serious
calls for "more space, please".
scg
response 2 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 22:04 UTC 1998

Disk is cheap, and more disk would definitely be a good thing.  That said,
adding disks as things fill up takes a fair bit of work, and staff time isn't
exactly a plentiful resource for us.
rickyb
response 3 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 01:34 UTC 1998

i don't think I've ever gotten near maxing out my allocation of space, either
here, or back when I was active (much more than I am here at grex) at mnet.

That being said, and at the risk of creating drift, perhaps there is some way
to add space for <shudder the thought> graphics.  No, not to make grex another
image-laden web site, but for things like a user photo galleray in the
photography conference, or for schematic/sketches of ideas in the
do-it-yourself conference, science.cf, etc...  There _are_ times where a
picture is worth 1K words, and a grex art gallery (with a rotating collection)
of users drawings, photos or other graphical representations of their creative
output seems like it could be a nice evolutionary addition to grex without
risking assaulting the essence of the system.

<sorry...drift off>
remmers
response 4 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 13:48 UTC 1998

The problem with graphics is not the space to store them so much as the 
bandwidth it takes to transmit them over our internet link. For that 
reason, even the graphics used on Grex's official web pages and in 
Backtalk are stored on another server - hvcn.org currently, I believe. 
And the cost of upgrading our network bandwidth would be substantially 
more than buying more disk.
rcurl
response 5 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 15:24 UTC 1998

Obviously some users don't need more than 1 M disk space and others do.
1 M is itself pretty arbitrary. Why not 0.5 or 2? The best way is to a)
find out if many users could make good use of a bigger disk allotment,
and b) what it would cost if the need is there. Would there be any
benefit to the general operation of the system to have more disk space?
lilmo
response 6 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 15:48 UTC 1998

Even more relevant:  would increasing the limit right now actually cause
problems?  Would the user disk fill up?
rcurl
response 7 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 15:50 UTC 1998

If one runs over 1 M now and then a (automated?) message is sent saying
disk space is short so please reduce your usage to below 1 M. That implies
that a larger limit now would cause problems, but staff could provide
more details on this. 
keesan
response 8 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 18:08 UTC 1998

Does this 1M include website?
mta
response 9 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 19:24 UTC 1998

I'm pretty certain your web site is included in the 1M, yes.
rcurl
response 10 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 20:55 UTC 1998

Whatever is in your directory, including mail. Your web page is in your
directory. 
keesan
response 11 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 01:42 UTC 1998

Looks like I should accept someone's offer to use their website for
'publishing' a book online, then.  Or buy another account instead of straight
donations to grex.  Can I buy two accounts and consolidate them, or use Jim's
space too?
rcurl
response 12 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 04:56 UTC 1998

Grex doesn't sell accounts. 

You could spread the web pages for a longer document across several
accounts and simply link the pages as needed. There is no need for web
pages to all be in one directory.

davel
response 13 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 11:40 UTC 1998

Unless I'm mistaken, what Rane said is not quite right (or at least
misleading).  I don't think your mailbox counts in the 1MB limit.  (Any mail
you save into your own directory does, of course.)

It's possible that someone programmed it the way Rane said, though.
remmers
response 14 of 111: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 14:02 UTC 1998

Users' mailboxes have a separate 1MB limit, I believe.
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