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eeyore
APRIL BOARD MEETING Mark Unseen   Apr 16 02:55 UTC 2000

Well, once again, I'm running behind, thanks to my wonderful work scheduale,
and a grumpy computer.  But here goes. :)

Attendees were: 
        Board: Eric, Greg, Meg, John, STeve, Jan
        Non-Board: Mary, Mark, Jessica, Scott, Steve, and login Mermaid, whose
                actual real-life name I didn't catch (Sorry!!!)

Gavel banging commenced at 7:05.

Chairman's report: Eric reported that he has hundreds of fonts, and that he
        really has nothing ever to report during the Chair's reports.

Treasurer's Report: Gregory reported that we made money in March (I could give
        all the exact numbers and such, but they are just going to look exactly
        like the numbers that he posts in here and Agora every month, so I give
        up on that.)  Online charging seems to be working appropriately,
        although some potential security problems were discussed.  The stock
        of the Grex store was also discussed.....we wondered if maybe it was
        time to come up with a new T-shirt design, since we haven't sold any
        in a really long time.  We are also hoping to soon have the credit card
        system up and running to buy merchandise from the store and for random
        donations.

Publicity Committee Report: Misty wasn't there to make a report.  We did, 
        however, discuss the TOP idea.  Eric is going to run as point person
        for that, as he works there every year.  After some discussion, it was
        decided that we'd like to run TOP on donations, rather than take the
        money out of the General Fund, with possible makeup coming out of the
        Silly Hat Fund.

Tech Committee: STeve reported that he had access to a SUN4-370 to use for
        disk formatting & differential disks.  We still want a seperate machine
        for development disks.  The new disk is not yet installed, and /var
        is full.  There is a problem with backups since our tape drive is
        either down or dirty.  Brief argument ensued between STeve and Scott
        over whether or not Scott had ever cleaned a tape drive before.  There
        have been requests to raise the !tel line limit, or to find more than
        just the last tel with !huh.  It was pointed out that ms-p (?) would
        take care of that problem.  Jan is partway to setting upf a webpage
        to let people reset their own password.

Arlo Committee:  Scott enjoyed making Arlo paranoid by trying to point out
        to him that he (Arlo) only to eat crackers, while his mother Valerie
        got the good stuff (Hommus).  We later also learned that he has a 
        vocabulary of 30-40 words, including meow, dog, mommy, and daddy.

Pico License: Nothing could be decided without Marcus there.  We need to find
        out if Marcus now can own the code now that Netty (?) (the origional
        owners) are gone.  If he does, will we be allowed to make changes? 
        It was decided to look into prices of Confer and Yapp as backup plans.

New Business: The auction is still going.  New items are still wanted, but
        it's looking like it's going to a small auction in the end.  There 
        are a few items that the bidding is closed on, but need followup to
        get money from the bidder.  A tape disc will be borrowed to make
        backups, and then there will be partitioning to free up /c again.

Meeting ended 8:14.

Next meeting will be May 10th.  Same Bat-time, same Bat-place.
27 responses total.
other
response 1 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 03:47 UTC 2000

Netty -->  NETI   ;)

See conf:agora,2,95  item 2 resp 95 for the latest on the Top of the Park
situation. It seems we've scored a coup.  :):)
carson
response 2 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 04:00 UTC 2000

(I was just thinking "it's time for a new T-shirt design" earlier
today.)
janc
response 3 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 04:04 UTC 2000

I looked into the price of Yapp.  The Yapp homepage is at
http://armidalesoftware.com/yapp/yapp.html

The prices are positively humorous.  Version 3.0, the web version, can
be had for a mere $3,000.  But Backtalk is better and costs less, so we
don't need that.  Version 2.3, the command-line version that clones
picospan, costs $9,995 for a unlimited license. (Yes, version 2.3 costs
more than three times as much as version 3.0, but you get a measly 45
hours of support with 2.3).  We could probably get by with the 128 user
license, which is only $5,550.  We'd probably qualify for a 15%
non-profit discount so it'd only be $4,717,50.  Maybe we could save a
few more bucks if we pass on the support contract, though it's not clear
that that is possible.  If we decided we really wanted it, we should
talk to Dave Thaler and see if he is serious about these prices.
eeyore
response 4 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 04:14 UTC 2000

Sorry about the Netty vs. NETI idea....I have very little actual computer
background, so sometimes it all sounds like Geek to me. :)
gelinas
response 5 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 04:32 UTC 2000

Yeah, but I see NETI every time I start up Picospan.
pfv
response 6 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 05:22 UTC 2000

        I think Thaler's prices are lower ala' mnut/grex NP.. ($100 is
        what I recall) And, yapp is simply a cut ABOVE picospan, although
        not "that great" - (OK, "that great" is REAL SUBJECTIVE)..

        IAE, yapp is simply a superset of picospan - certainly more
        friendly - (the source is still.. umm... "obtuse" is polite).


        I'd offer YACS, but I ain't ready, nor will it suffer sun/solaris,
        being written for linux and NS, at the moment.
spooked
response 7 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 07:22 UTC 2000

I was a notable no-show at the board meeting - sorry (:
Especially to Rye (mermaid)!
eeyore
response 8 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 15:21 UTC 2000

Thanks for a name....I felt so awful as I was posting this up!
other
response 9 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 17:49 UTC 2000

Mic, you're the one who missed out, not Rye!  ;)
don
response 10 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 23:54 UTC 2000

I guess I've been mnutting too much. What's this about TOP and replacing
picospan?
hhsrat
response 11 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 01:52 UTC 2000

Grex is planning to sponsor a movie at Top of The Park (TOP).  This has 
absolutely nothing to do with the system command top which shows Memory 
Usage (if I'm not mistaken).

As far as replacing picospan, I think that's more an issue of being able 
to get/modify the source to picospan than the functionality of Picospan 
(which seems fine to me)
jp2
response 12 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 01:59 UTC 2000

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gelinas
response 13 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 02:11 UTC 2000

I think it was the discussion of perceived problems with the way scribble
works (or doesn't).  And, as noted, there are other improvements possible.

I think there is already an item for discussion of the license of Picospan.
Perhaps it would be best to continue the discussion there?
keesan
response 14 of 27: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 03:05 UTC 2000

Jim has a SUN SLC.  (He will not tell me if it is a computer.  'Keyboard and
mouse'.  And it works.  It says it has 16 megabytes.  He asked ROss to tell
him what sort of hard drive it is and Ross decided to use it for a Mac and
erased the operating system.  Grex is welcome to the computer if it can find
the operating system to use with it.
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