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Grex > Coop13 > #77: Member Initiative: Do Nothing For Four Weeks. | |
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cmcgee
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Member Initiative: Do Nothing For Four Weeks.
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Jan 10 03:01 UTC 2004 |
Member Initiative: Do Nothing For Four Weeks.
I'm serious. I'm afraid that the whiplash being created by being forced to
chose between the two previous items is making Grex into an emotionally
driven, lines-in-the-sand, frenzy. I'm proposing a cooling-off period in
which we make no decisions, and stop the running of all time-based governance
processes.
I'm not sure how to suspend the rules, but that IS what I'm proposing.
Let's all take a deep breath, and not be driven into even more unfortunate
reactive decisions. We stand to lose a lot more by whipping back and
forth and making decisions based on some feeling of
end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it urgency. Grex will not go away if we pause
for a bit. As an organizational development consultant I am seeing
serious signs of self-destruction here.
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jep
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response 1 of 56:
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Jan 10 03:12 UTC 2004 |
Colleen, you are an eminently sensible person. Thanks for this
proposal.
I will support it when an opportunity becomes available to do so.
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richard
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response 2 of 56:
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Jan 10 03:20 UTC 2004 |
thats a fine idea, but util this issue is addressed, staff should move to
disable use of the program valerie wrote to mass delete old responses. It
is fair to ask that the users have time to consider this, as you suggest
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cmcgee
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response 3 of 56:
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Jan 10 03:22 UTC 2004 |
I would agree that that program is part of the frenzy and use should be
suspended as part of the cooling off process.
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aruba
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response 4 of 56:
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Jan 10 03:29 UTC 2004 |
Sounds good to me, Colleen.
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gelinas
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response 5 of 56:
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Jan 10 03:45 UTC 2004 |
Thanks, cmcgee. I, at least, want a chance to think things thhrough before
making any decisions. Right now, I can barely keep up with the flow of
text, much less digest it all.
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albaugh
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response 6 of 56:
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Jan 10 04:24 UTC 2004 |
Sorry, I consider this more histrionics! Cool off, scmool off. So far, all
that has happened is a bunch of talk. Isn't that what grex is for, talk?
In fact in a "twisted" way this episode has driven more talk out of the
woodwork than anything I can remember happening on grex, even the scribble
log escapades. The strength of a system, policy, bylaw is that it *won't*
be set aside in "troubling times". So I say *let* jp2's & jep's proposals
work their way forward until a possible time to hold a vote, and if a vote
comes, let it have its 2 weeks or whatever it is to be decided. That's plenty
of time to have more TALK and convince people one way or the other, if needed.
A proposal to suspend good, in-place mechanisms is the most harmful thing to
come up yet out of this mess.
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richard
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response 7 of 56:
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Jan 10 05:27 UTC 2004 |
just becuase YOU think it is a good in-place mechanism albaugh doesn't mean
everyone else does (speaking here about valerie's program which has only been
"in place" a couple of days. I really think Valerie should have let the users
discuss it and decide if they want such a program. I think it is highly
dangerous to have a program that enables users to scribble multiples of posts
at one time with no further effort. This is how people who happen to be in
a bad mood can do create destruction, because it is easy to do. At the least,
you should only ever be able to scribble one post at a time.
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kip
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response 8 of 56:
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Jan 10 05:32 UTC 2004 |
What exactly do people want? An emergency meeting of the board to settle
this? The next regular board meeting is January 19th, I have no doubt this
will be discussed if it isn't already on the agenda.
Or is the intent of the other items here to whip the membership into enough
of a frenzy to make a rash and potentially unmaintainable referendum?
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jmsaul
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response 9 of 56:
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Jan 10 05:33 UTC 2004 |
I don't see much of a frenzy here, do you?
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willcome
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response 10 of 56:
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Jan 10 08:55 UTC 2004 |
HEY< GUYS<
WHAT HAPPENS IF ALL THREE OF THE RECENT PROPOSALS PASS?!? THEY"RE MUTUALLY
CONDRADICTORY AND HOW DO WE DECIDE WHICH TAKE PRECEDENCE?!
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richard
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response 11 of 56:
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Jan 10 09:06 UTC 2004 |
then I guess the board votes on which of the passed proposals to actually
enact
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willcome
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response 12 of 56:
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Jan 10 09:20 UTC 2004 |
What if someone enters an initiative saying the Board can't do that?
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