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naftee
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Potential censorship
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Jan 6 02:27 UTC 2004 |
I have compiled a list of circumstantial evidence, if, when taken in context,
shows a very disturbing sequence of events. Mr Wolter, login janc, when
repairing the GreX machine, happened to stumble across item 39 in the agora
conference on m-net's bbs, regarding his wife's baby diary, which he found
very insulting. He entered a response about this; here is the header:
#211 Jan Wolter [janc] (40) (Mon, Jan 5, 2004 (07:23)):
Later on, Mrs. Mates read the same item and responded to it; here is the
header:
#217 Valerie Mates [popcorn] (4) (Mon, Jan 5, 2004 (11:49)):
In it, she alludes to the fact that the diary had been purged. Research
revealed the diary was located in the femme conference. However, some items
are missing. Having a look at the bbs errorlog, we find this:
----Valerie Mates: valerie(112) pid=13463
cf=/bbs/femme 81 ps T3.3a Mon Jan 5 11:59:08 2004
prompt="(oops)? " (prompt) cmd was: kill 81^J
error was:You can't do that!
----PicoSpan file owner: cfadm(60) pid=13712
cf=/bbs/femme 81 ps T3.3a Mon Jan 5 12:00:01 2004
prompt="(oops)? " (prompt) cmd was: kill 81^J
error was:Deleting message 81
----PicoSpan file owner: cfadm(60) pid=13712
cf=/bbs/femme 106 ps T3.3a Mon Jan 5 12:00:13 2004
prompt="(oops)? " (prompt) cmd was: kill 106^J
error was:Deleting message 106
----PicoSpan file owner: cfadm(60) pid=13712
cf=/bbs/femme 145 ps T3.3a Mon Jan 5 12:00:19 2004
prompt="(oops)? " (prompt) cmd was: kill 145^J
error was:Deleting message 145
----PicoSpan file owner: cfadm(60) pid=13712
cf=/bbs/femme 142 ps T3.3a Mon Jan 5 12:00:25 2004
prompt="(oops)? " (prompt) cmd was: kill 142^J
error was:Deleting message 142
----PicoSpan file owner: cfadm(60) pid=13712
cf=/bbs/femme 117 ps T3.3a Mon Jan 5 12:00:34 2004
prompt="(oops)? " (prompt) cmd was: kill 117^J
error was:Deleting message 117
----PicoSpan file owner: cfadm(60) pid=13712
cf=/bbs/femme 113 ps T3.3a Mon Jan 5 12:00:42 2004
prompt="(oops)? " (prompt) cmd was: kill 113^J
error was:Deleting message 113
I would like to point your attention to the dates and times. Ten minutes
after responding in m-net's agora conference, Mrs. Mates enters the femme
conference and tries to delete some items. A few minutes later, the
conference admin enters and deletes them for good.
I sincerely hope these items were not the aforementioned baby diary. However
I have good reason to believe it was. If so, a great and evil act of
censorship has taken place. Regardless of the potential sensitivity of the
material, they did not merit censorship.
I demand action.
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willcome
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response 1 of 393:
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Jan 6 02:38 UTC 2004 |
I thank soup for bringing this matter to our attention.
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gelinas
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response 2 of 393:
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Jan 6 03:09 UTC 2004 |
Valerie reported her actions, but not their cause, to the Board and staff.
I see no reason to assume any wrong-doing on her part.
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willcome
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response 3 of 393:
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Jan 6 03:12 UTC 2004 |
If I mail bombed the system, but I reported it first, would I be let off?
No. Neither should Valerie: she actually censored items with HUNDREDS of
responses from other users. That is a SERIOUS offence, and no-one but someone
fucking a staff member would be given the priviledge.
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valerie
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response 4 of 393:
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Jan 6 03:53 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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willcome
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response 5 of 393:
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Jan 6 05:36 UTC 2004 |
Um, Valerie, you know it's not. That's why people can't do it unless they
abuse their staff powers.
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willcome
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response 6 of 393:
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Jan 6 05:37 UTC 2004 |
(Of course, we know for a fact that Valerie IS a liar. She said in a previous
item that she'd restore my polytarp account if I fulfilled certain conditions.
I did, and she never restored the account; no PRAGMATIC harm was done, of
course, because cross eventually restored it for me, but there's, I should
think, harm done in that LIES are INHERENTLY unjust. that's just imho,
though.)
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ryan
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response 7 of 393:
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Jan 6 05:56 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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willcome
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response 8 of 393:
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Jan 6 06:35 UTC 2004 |
Right, especially ignore us when we're trying to prevent abuse of the system.
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ryan
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response 9 of 393:
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Jan 6 06:53 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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willcome
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response 10 of 393:
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Jan 6 08:25 UTC 2004 |
Right, let's let Grex become a place absent of free speech, because you don't
like the a subset of the people complaining about the erosion of free speech.
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remmers
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response 11 of 393:
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Jan 6 12:14 UTC 2004 |
#4: "It's longstanding Grex policy that the person who created an item
can delete it."
Really? I don't think so.
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remmers
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response 12 of 393:
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Jan 6 12:18 UTC 2004 |
To clarify: People are allowed to purge their own responses, but
not those of other people. At least, that's always been my
understanding.
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