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jp2
Member Resolution: Undead the Kilt Mark Unseen   Mar 12 11:14 UTC 2004

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109 responses total.
salad
response 1 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 15:34 UTC 2004

haha
other
response 2 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 16:06 UTC 2004

remmers, where's that measure you're working on?
glenda
response 3 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 17:10 UTC 2004

Give it a rest.  You have been voted down twice already. With such a large
majority that I don't see it changing to your side at all.
krj
response 4 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 18:15 UTC 2004

It costs Jamie nothing to keep doing this, forever.
tod
response 5 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 20:34 UTC 2004

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robh
response 6 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 22:43 UTC 2004

I'm actually curious to see if this one will get an even
higher percentage of "No" votes than the last one.
salad
response 7 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 01:22 UTC 2004

It's about the same as asking yourself if you can get any gayer than GreX is.
edina
response 8 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 22:00 UTC 2004

You know, I came to this argument incredibly late.  So instead of seeing how
it was all going to play out, I got to read it all at once.  And I got to
seriously wonder just what the hell was going on with Grex.  Can someone tell
me please?

First off, I am friends with John.  A fairly good friend in some ways, I'd
like to think.  And while I've never met Valerie, I consider her a friend as
well.  I post on her current baby diary, have apologized for my making fun
of her on m-net and consider her an invaluable source of information and
warmth.

Secondly, I can't believe that I feel so betrayed by both of them.  Strangely,
I am far more upset with John than anyone.  Yes, Valerie did wrong - I won't
deny it.  But her wrong can be restored.  John saying "Please wipe out my
items because I'm scared of the repercussions"?  Please.  Like he wasn't
warned about a bizillion times . . . .

Thirdly.  Censorship.  Do I feel censored?  In a way, yes.  I contributed a
fair bit to the divorce items, as, if any of you recall, I was getting
divorced at the same time.  Were my words stolen from me?  Sure.  And as many
objectors have pointed out, I should have saved my words myself if they were
that important to me.  But then, why did I have to?  It's true, if an act of
nature destroyed them, I'd be sad, but I'd move on.  But they haven't been
destroyed.  They are on a backup tape.  I mean, if I got John's permission
and I asked for a copy of the items, could I have it?  I said a lot of things
on there.  It was nice to go back and look at them and realize how far I'd
come, in terms of how I feel about my marriage splitting up.

The best part of this whole thing?  Valerie is gone.  And John has turned tail
and run.  Grex is cliquish.  I know this.  But I feel it truly condoned a
wrong act with another wrong act.

And as for Glenda's "give it a rest" remark, why?  Because you've had enough?
Because nothing anyone says will change your mind?  Because you don't want
to think about it anymore?  (Given your schedule, I'd almost consider that
valid.)  I guess I just don't get it.  It wasn't right what was done, and I
don't get why it's being backed up.
scott
response 9 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 22:34 UTC 2004

Well, at this point I do think that Valerie went a bit too far.  But at the
same time, the discussion of the restoration issue was effectively forced by
jp2 and others, and I still can't see what possible good they were up to as
opposed to just doing it for their own amusement.  It certainly had the effect
of making a lot of us "circle the wagons" in the argument.
tod
response 10 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 22:46 UTC 2004

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aruba
response 11 of 109: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 00:00 UTC 2004

Brooke - I'd like to give it a rest because I got sick to death of reading
keatses and keatses of abuse and bitterness every single day for a month and
a half.  We voted on it, which is what we do when there is disagreement.  I
don't know what's left to say at this point.
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