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cyklone
Paging Staff Mark Unseen   Jul 11 21:47 UTC 2007

Ummm, grex is regularly being attacked by a vandal and the best Grex can 
do is "well, staff doesn't check in regularly"? Didn't we just have a long 
debate about training new staff, or is that still in a consensus building 
committee meeting? Stopping vandals, at least in this case, doesn't 
involve any policy issues that I'm aware of. I do realize that this may 
need more than a simple IP block for reasons someone mentioned in agora. 
Still, is anyone on this yet? If not, why not?

Anyone? Bueller?
63 responses total.
mcnally
response 1 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 22:46 UTC 2007

 Have you tried mailing the staff mailing list (staff@cyberspace.org)?
 If the problem is that they're not reading conferences, posting in
 yet another conference is probably not going to do the trick.

 But yes, staff attention is scarce these days.
cyklone
response 2 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 23:07 UTC 2007

Actually, I hadn't emailed staff. I was under the impression that someone who
actually was in communication with someone on staff knew of the problem 
and conveyed it to that staffperson. But this is just an assumption, so 
your point is noted.
slynne
response 3 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 00:32 UTC 2007

I have emailed staff
remmers
response 4 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 20:39 UTC 2007

Me too.  (and board as well)
cmcgee
response 5 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 21:47 UTC 2007

Would someone post simple directions for filtering a user?  I used Backtalk
to ignore spin, but when I use Picospan, his responses show up.  

None of the utility menus seem to have incorporated this little program.
mcnally
response 6 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 22:43 UTC 2007

 Type "twit spin" at the Ok: prompt to filter out response from user spin.

 Note that although you will no longer see his responses you will still see
 each item that they have responded to as a "new" item, which means you'll
 still have to go through them all, which means there's virtually no benefit
 to twit-filtering him.
cmcgee
response 7 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 23:07 UTC 2007

My coping mechanism has been to use Backtalk to see a list of items with
new responses; click on the ones with more than one, and then use
picospan to fixseen the conference as soon as I've finished.

Thanks.
slynne
response 8 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 01:30 UTC 2007

I seem to have misplaced my cell phone which has gelinas's phone number
in it. I found cross's phone number and managed to reach him.
Unfortunately, he is in a situation where he is unable to log into grex.
It is probably too late to call Jan tonight. I dont have STeve's or
glenda's number. 

Ugh. 
keesan
response 9 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 12:39 UTC 2007

Don't these people read email?
Or have each other's phone numbers?
slynne
response 10 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 14:15 UTC 2007

I cant speak for them. I imagine, given the season, that it is highly 
likely that they are busy with things that might take them away from 
their computers. 

It is becoming clear to me that we really need staff who are more 
active participants in bbs. I dont know exactly how to go about 
recruiting them but it certainly is something we should think about. I 
mean usually, we have cross around very regularly but he is busy right 
at this moment. It isnt fair to put everything on his shoulders 
anyways. 

jep
response 11 of 63: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 16:17 UTC 2007

The staff needs to accept some new people who are skilled enough to help
out in some way, and with no obvious ethical flaws, even if they aren't
long time buddies of all of the current staff members.  The staff has
traditionally been extremely paranoid about accepting new staff members,
on the grounds they might not be trustworthy.

They are overdoing it by a lot and doing harm in the process.  Grex is
not a critical application for anyone.  Even organizations which have
really critical operations (such as the CIA, banks, pharmaceutical
companies, etc.) have to bring in new people sometimes.  Letting the
work be undone because you're too paranoid to bring in new people to do
it is not *more* secure.  It is a certain way for your organization to
crumble.

Grex is being ground to a halt right now, Agora is for all purposes dead
in the water for the last couple of days, because there's no one active
and trusted enough to replace the password field for the user's line in
/etc/passwd with an "x".  That's insane.
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