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Global warming claims at least 19000 dead in Europe in 2003 Mark Unseen   Sep 27 03:15 UTC 2003

At least 19,000 people died in this summer's heat wave in
Europe.  France alone currently counts some 14,000.  Spain
lists about 4,000, Italy 1176, and the toll is bound to rise;
Germany has only listed 40 deaths as due to the heat, a figure
which is all but certainly due to extremely narrow criteria.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/2120733
49 responses total.
albaugh
response 1 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 04:33 UTC 2003

Yep, it's all due to global warming, because lawdy we've never had heat waves
before thisun...
scott
response 2 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 05:36 UTC 2003

Obviously it's all a plot by those opposed to business.  
sj2
response 3 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 06:50 UTC 2003

Yes, the same way it was a *plot* to bring in labour laws.
remmers
response 4 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 12:23 UTC 2003

Not that I'd say that the heat wave definitely *wasn't* caused by
global warming, nothing in the news story cited in #0 ties it to
that.
twenex
response 5 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 27 15:19 UTC 2003

Since records began more or less in the industrial era, who's to say from a
priori evidence that *all* of the previous heatwaves *weren't* caused by
a combination of global warming and weather patterns, hmm?

sj2
response 6 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 07:10 UTC 2003

What was the maximum temperature in Europe this summer? And people 
mostly died of heat strokes?

In India, people die of heat strokes, mostly at places where 
temperatures go above 50 degree celsius.

19000!!! Wow!!! Thats a pretty big number. But it didn't make that big 
in the news somehow (compared to other disasters). And what are the 
governments doing about it now?
i
response 7 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 12:23 UTC 2003

19000 people, mostly elderly/frail/etc., dying here & there over a period
of time is just not very interesting mass-media news.  Society doesn't
value such folk's lives very highly (which is why they were mostly left
to die.)  No excitement of shooting/fire/crash/etc.  No deranged killer 
stalking his next victim.  Those at high risk themselves are a market
demographic that big advertisers don't much care about reaching.

Last i heard, the governments are mostly doing political damage control
and spin.  They didn't care either until it became a scandal. 
klg
response 8 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 01:40 UTC 2003

Mr. russ takes first place in the conclusion jump.
mdw
response 9 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 05:11 UTC 2003

Now would be a good time to buy stock in air conditioning firms in
europe.
gull
response 10 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 14:15 UTC 2003

Re #9: But not in the UK.  There's a good chance the ocean current that
currently brings warm ocean water past Britain, warming the climate
there, will shut down; it's already slowed.
eprom
response 11 of 49: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 14:57 UTC 2003

I was watching a program on the History Channel about the Bubonic
Plague of europe in the 1300's; afterwards there was a time of
great economic prosperity. 

Currently europe's unemployment rate tends to be higher (~8-9%) than
the U.S. (~3-5%) Maybe this is the proverbial shot-in-the-arm the
EU needs.

Hoorah for CFC's!!!

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