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albaugh
The Detroit Tigers watch Mark Unseen   Aug 28 19:07 UTC 2003

The 1962 Mets had a record of 40 wins and 120 losses, a winning percentage
of exactly .250 .  Given the modern schedule of 162 games, that means that
2 of their rainouts were not made up.  That is the worst major league baseball
record of all time.  The Mets were an expansion team.

Unfortunately, for fans in Detroit & Michigan, the Tigers have a legitimate
chance of breaking that "anti-record".  And they don't have the excuse of
being an expansion team - just a poorly managed franchise top-to-bottom, for
a decade.

This item is for the morbid curiosity of seeing if they'll do it or not.

BTW, if the Tigers play all their 162 games, they really need to win 43 games
to avoid being linked with the '62 Mets.  That's because they would then only
lose a maximum of 119 games.  It's true that if they go 42-120 they would be
better, percentage wise, than those Mets, but still.

Link this to sports, if you like.
116 responses total.
albaugh
response 1 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 19:09 UTC 2003

After their 9-7 loss to the Indians last night (Wed Aug 27), the Tigers are
now 33-98.  They need to win 10 out of their last 31 games to avoid the
anti-record.  That is ~.333 winning clip which they haven't performed at all
season.

P.S. The watch could extend beyond when summer agora gets rolled.
tpryan
response 2 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 28 20:24 UTC 2003

        If you want to see the tigers winning, I could be talked into
selling my only copies of TV broadcasts of the 1984 World Series.
carson
response 3 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 00:37 UTC 2003

(Kevin should be aware of the 1899 Cleveland Spiders, who set the record
for major league baseball futility by finishing with a record of 20 wins,
134 losses.  of note is that Cy Young once played for the franchise; he
won more games during the 1899 season than the Spiders did.)

(why were the Spiders so bad that year?  their owner bought the St. Louis
franchise and sent all the talent there, figuring that he'd make more
money in STL than CLE.  thus, the Spiders were forced to make-do with
minor leaguers and journeymen.  it's entirely possible that the Spiders
would have been even worse the following year, had they not fallen victim
to league contractions that cut the number of teams from 12 to 8.)

(it's true that the 1962 Mets were probably the worst baseball team in the
modern era, and they were part of an era of embarrassment that lasted at
least four years.  however, it's the Spiders that own the "worst major
league baseball record of all time."  the Tigers aren't going to break it
this season.) 

albaugh
response 4 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 01:04 UTC 2003

OK, make it one of those "asterisk" things, and confine it to the 162 game
schedule.  :-)
albaugh
response 5 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 14:17 UTC 2003

The Tigers lost last night (Thu Aug 28) at Cleveland, 8-3.  Their record is
now 33-99, and will of course be losing 100+ games, the sign of "stench" in
a team / organization.  What's worse, is that there is an exceptionally high
probability that they are about to set a new "record" for being the first team
to lose 100 games before September.  :-(
krj
response 6 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 16:01 UTC 2003

From what I have read, the 1962 Mets also lost 100 games before September.
carson
response 7 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 16:04 UTC 2003

(actually, the 1962 Mets lost their 100th game on August 29th, en route
to closing off their season with just one win in 41 games.  the Tigers
aren't even going to be the quickest to 100 losses:  the 1916 Philadelphia
A's only needed 130 games to reach the 100-loss mark.  alas, with the
shorter season, they didn't reach it until September 6th.)
carson
response 8 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 16:05 UTC 2003

(Ken slipped in, yet fit seamlessly.)
albaugh
response 9 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 17:17 UTC 2003

The "first to lose 100 before Sept." notion came from WJR.  They might 
have been referring to the American League...
carson
response 10 of 116: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 16:05 UTC 2003

([I've been informed that the '99 Cleveland Spiders lost their 100th
game on September 1st, 1899.  they were in the National League, so it
looks as if there's still an American League record to be broken.  the AL
didn't come into existence until after the turn of the century.)
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