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jared
CICNet <-> Cyberspace Communications Contract Mark Unseen   Mar 17 19:28 UTC 1997

CICNet, Inc. Customer Service Agreement 
 
                        
1.  General 

This customer service agreement is between CICNet, Inc., located in Ann 
Arbor, Michigan and Cyberspace Communications, Inc., located in Ann Arbor, MI.
This agreement shall begin on ___________________________ and be in effect 
for a period of one year.  Modifications to this agreement shall be made in 
writing with the mutual consent of both parties.

The service category for Cyberspace Communications, Inc. is Half connection 
at ISDN  (64kbs). 

2.  Services 

CICNet will provide the following services to Cyberspace Communications, 
Inc.  (referred to as the Customer): 

a)      A data network connection between the Customer's Ann Arbor, MI 
equipment to be located at the U of M computing center and the CICNet network 
located at Ann Arbor, MI.  This connection will support the TCP/IP protocol 
suite and provide the Customer with access to CICNet, and the greater 
connected Internet.

b)      Per standard InterNIC procedure, CICNet will lease at zero cost 
sufficient addresses to meet justified customer requirements.  The lease 
expires and the addresses revert to CICNet when this agreement is terminated 
according to terms of section 4.

3.  Costs 

a)      Fee Schedule 
        
CICNet costs for the Customer are as follows: 

Monthly Service Fee                     
                                        $0.00

Total due at beginning of Service Agreement                             $0.00

4.  Termination 

This Customer Service Agreement may be terminated at any time during its one 
year  term through written notice from either party provided to the other 
party one (1) month in advance of the termination date.


5.  Customer Responsibilities 

a)      The Customer will report to CICNet any problems experienced with 
network connectivity, security, or other problems relevant to the operation 
of CICNet.

b)      The LAN interface that CICNet provides the Customer is an Ten (10) 
Base T Ethernet connector.  The Customer is responsible for providing their 
equipment to connect to this interface.  The Customer must supply the 
equipment to be attached to this connection.

c)      The Customer will provide a ISDN grade phone line, with access 
proximate to the equipment listed in Section 6(b) above.  The Customer is 
responsible for the installation and monthly charges on this line.  

d)      The member's use of their CICNet connection will conform to the CICNet 
Conditions of Use Policy (Attachment A).

e)      The customer will participate in testing of experimental technologies, 
such as web caching, and other such services.

f)      The customer will prominently advertise CICNet as a sponsor, both 
with a login banner provided by CICNet, and with a link and small light 
weight graphic on their web home page.

g)      The service will not include NOC monitoring or access to the CICNet 
NOC, nor any access to the CICNet engineering support staff.

h)      The customer will not have physical access to the equiuarantee of 
quality of service.


6.  Limitation of Liability

Neither CICNet, Inc. nor its parent affiliates or subsidiaries shall be 
liable for any indirect, incidental, or consequential damages (including 
lost profits, lost savings or revenues) sustained or incurred in connection 
with the performance or non-performance of services to be provided by CICNet 
as described in this agreement whether or not such damages are foreseen or 
unforeseen.

7.  Contact Information 

The administrative contact and technical contact for Cyberspace Communications,
Inc. is Valerie Mates.  

The administrative contact for CICNet is Jared Mauch.  The technical contact 
for CICNet is Jared Mauch.  All network operating and equipment problems 
should be reported to Jared Mauch directly. Your backup contact is Paul 
Southworth.

Contact information for Jared Mauch and Paul Southworth:

                Jared Mauch     313-998-8227            jared@cic.net
                Paul Southworth 313-998-6103            pauls@cic.net

                CICNet, Inc.
                2901 Hubbard
                Ann Arbor, MI  48105
                Voice - 313-998-6103
                Fax - 313-998-6105
                info@cic.net


9.  Approval

        
Authorized Signature    Date
Valerie Mates, Cyberspace Communications


        
E. Michael Staman       Date
President, CICNet, Inc. 
21 responses total.
jared
response 1 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 19:29 UTC 1997

Questions?
Comments?
Ask away.  The one week starts now :)
jared
response 2 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 19:57 UTC 1997

FYI, attachment A is available in item 60 in coop.  I have two of the three
approvals here at my end required, which are the most important ones,
the last is just one more person looking over it since they haven't had
time.

mary
response 3 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 22:15 UTC 1997

Is that a type in 5.h?  I expect it means access to equiptment
and guarantee of service.

How big is the banner we'll be seeing - like more lines than
what we have now?

Thanks for posting this, Jared.
dang
response 4 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 22:34 UTC 1997

Looks okay to me.  However, I don't know anything about contracts, so... :)
jared
response 5 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 22:42 UTC 1997

re #3
        No, it does not mean access to equipment, and the guarantee of
service stands as listed.  The reliability of your internet connection
should be the same as it has currently been upstream also, we've had few if
any problems in the past, and very few that I see in the future.  ICNet
would be shopping for another provider if that wasn't the case, I'm sure,
so would our other connectivity customers in the area.  I suspect the only
problems that will ever be seen will be with your routers.  The tech staff
will be put on a "OPS" list of folks that will get contacted when there
are outages on our end, so they'll know when our end is down, and has gone
down, etc.

        The banner is (per folks above me) supposed to be 1-5 lines, and we
will supply it for you.  I don't expect it to be too obscene, but I won't
be involved in dictating the banner text, so I can't respond to that.

dpc
response 6 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 00:04 UTC 1997

Looks fine to me.
valerie
response 7 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 00:58 UTC 1997

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mary
response 8 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 02:00 UTC 1997

Jared, please clarify section 5, subsection h.
kaplan
response 9 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 04:06 UTC 1997

Not sure if this kind of stuff belongs in the contract or the informal
discussion, but:

How can we get the connection bumped up to 128Kbps?

Can we expect the terms of the contract to change significantly after the
first year?
scg
response 10 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 04:29 UTC 1997

It looks good to me.

I think waht section 5h means is that while their paying customers have access
to all their support staff, since we are not paying we are expected to support
ourselves.  Jared has volunteered to help us out on support issues on his own
time, if needed, but that doesn't go in the contract.

I think I was supposed to be Grex's technical contact on this.  Valerie should
still be the administrative contact.
aruba
response 11 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 06:43 UTC 1997

Could we get the banner posted here in this item before the contract is
signed?  It seems to me that it is, in fact, part of the contract.  And as
Mary said, there seems to be a typo in 5.h.
tsty
response 12 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 18 23:21 UTC 1997

is it reasonable to have (from  #7) the administrative contact
adn teh technical contact be separted into  two contacts? they might
both be valarie at this point, but the adminsitrative contact
is due to her being the current president (subject to changes over time)
adnthe technical contact is due to her being one of the staff (subject
to changes over time). 
  
i would suggest the adminstrative contact to be changed to: president
of grex, currently .....
  
and the technical contact changed to: cyberspace staff int he person
of .....
  
looks fine to me though.
  
how about pointing us to the  mandatory 'lighweight graphic' to see?
  
and, yes, posting the "prominently advertise(d) cicnet" banner would
be a good idea.
  
and as stated above, posting the corrected text of   5.h  would help.
  
thankxx jared and thankxx to cicnet.
jared
response 13 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 19 10:41 UTC 1997

Sorry, didn't this section got garbled:

 h)     The customer will not have physical access to the equiuarantee of 
 quality of service.

It should read:

h)      The customer will not have physical access to the equipment located at
CICNet, nor will there be any guarantee of quality of service.

Sorry about the line wrapping. haven't fixed my $EDITOR here.

And it should say "didn't notice this section got garbled.. see what I get
for being online this early in the morning.  /sigh
jared
response 14 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 19 10:46 UTC 1997

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jared
response 15 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 19 10:55 UTC 1997

Ok.. now my $EDITOR is set.

I'm working on part 4 to get it rephrased on our end.  It typically doesn't
give folks a "monthly" option to opt out on the contract, it is usually
in one year terms.  It's not meant that we can terminate you upon one
months notice, it's more meant that you can terminate anytime if you find
a "better" deal.

I'm still fighting with folks here to get it all resolved on our end,
they're pointing fingers right now, the big boss pointed it at one of his
folks, then they're saying they need agreement with someone else.. blah..
It'll happen, we just have to take small boards with large nails in them and
beat folks over the head until they listen ;)

I'll post the "absoluteley final draft" as soon as I have it with all these
corrections.
valerie
response 16 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 19 15:53 UTC 1997

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dpc
response 17 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 20 21:38 UTC 1997

Indeed.
jared
response 18 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 20 23:55 UTC 1997

Still waiting on folks here.. and for the login banner too so I can post
it.  /sigh
arthurp
response 19 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 21 20:23 UTC 1997

Indeed many thanks!
tsty
response 20 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 25 15:27 UTC 1997

appreciated, unquestionably.
valerie
response 21 of 21: Mark Unseen   Mar 26 07:08 UTC 1997

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