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Registering grex.org Mark Unseen   Mar 12 05:42 UTC 1997

At the last board meeting, it was mentioned that somebody had registered
grex.com (short for "graphic expressions") and set up something that is sort
of a porn site there.  Several of us at the meeting became concerned about
protecting the name grex, so later that night we registered grex.org to make
sure nobody else takes that.

The InterNIC (the company that allocates domain names) charges $50 per year
for a domain name.  The first two years have to be paid soon after the name
is registered, so if we decide to keep grex.org when the InterNIC sends us
the bill for it, it will cost us $100.  If we don't pay the bill, grex.org
will once again be available for anybody who wants it to register.

We decieded at the board meeting that we should register the name, and then
go to Coop for input on whether we should pay the bill and keep it.
76 responses total.
mta
response 1 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 05:58 UTC 1997

I think we should.
rcurl
response 2 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 06:44 UTC 1997

Why spend money on that when we already have the very valuable cyberspace.org?
By the way, have we ever registered Grex in Michigan as a trade name or DBA?
With all the new domain suffixes coming in, it really will be futile (and
expensive) to register other appropriate grex.xyz. 
valerie
response 3 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 07:03 UTC 1997

This response has been erased.

nestene
response 4 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 08:13 UTC 1997

We don't need to reserve grex.* ; just having grex.org will establish us
as "grex" on the internet.  Grex.org will be the most appropriate of the
grex.any's for us, though, for two reasons:  1) cyberspace is an org, and
grex.org is just another name for cyberspace; 2) when the new domains open
up, any site with one of the old domains will gain a certain retro-chic
aspect, like papertape and punchcards.  Anyone who comes to such an antique
site looking for speed and graphics will deserve to be disappointed.
krj
response 5 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 15:25 UTC 1997

Someone should be sure to tell the Ann Arbor Observer about grex.com!!
(*ahem*)
babozita
response 6 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 15:43 UTC 1997

So it would be different if Grex. Com were, say, a real estate biz?
Anybody here read my latest story in sexuality?
Go! do it! It's called Wonderland, it should be the last item...
  
then come back here and say you're worried about grex.com tarnishing our
pristine image...

ahem, sorry, i said i was leaving, didn't i? all right, all right, i'm going

aruba
response 7 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 16:12 UTC 1997

The bill for grex.org will be due April 8th.  We need to decide by then.
richard
response 8 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 17:02 UTC 1997

indeed, it couldbeconfusing when the *.web* classifications started being
widel used...someone could get grex.web               


Right now Im not sure what difference it makes whether grex has this
registered or not...but grex can certainly afford the $200 bucks right now
right?
rcurl
response 9 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 17:56 UTC 1997

I think it has better uses for it. The web now has many sites with the same
prefixes and different suffixes - it is no reflection on anyone what is one
*other* sites. If someone here had established that *we need another domain
name*, I'd say grex.org would be a logical choice. But the need wasn't there.
richard
response 10 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 18:06 UTC 1997

maybe itwould make more sense to register "cyberspace.org"...after all, there
is a cyberspace.com that is an ISP in the Seattle area.  That is as confusing
as grex.comwould be.    "Cyberspace"is a much more likely name tobe used and
reused too.
void
response 11 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 22:40 UTC 1997

   hmmm. i'm a bit confused. if "grex.org" stays registered, is it going to
replace "cyberspace.org" or be an additional domain name?
cmcgee
response 12 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 23:10 UTC 1997

I'd like to keep cyberspace.org as our domain name, but, if we can afford it,
would like to have control of grex.org as well.
robh
response 13 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 23:16 UTC 1997

There's no problem with our having both domain names; in fact,
I believe we can even have both of them point to the same system.
dang
response 14 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 23:18 UTC 1997

Additional.  We already have cyberspace.org registered, and have no intention
of letting it go.  The idea is to get grex.org too, so as to cut down on the
confusion caused when someone "telnets to grex"  Personally, I think grex.org
is a good idea.  I don't think we need any other domain names, but I think
that one is a good one to have.  I've run across confusion too, about going
to Grex at cyberspace.org.
dang
response 15 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 23:19 UTC 1997

Rob slipped in.  Nope, there's no problem.  We do currently have both of them
pointing to the same location.  Try telnetting to grex.org.
richard
response 16 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 23:28 UTC 1997

if grex goes to two computers and splits everything up, couldnt grex.org be
the mail computer, and cyberspace.org be everything else?
scg
response 17 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 12 23:44 UTC 1997

We already have grex,org, at least until the bill is due.  If you telnet to
grex.org, you will get to Grex.
aruba
response 18 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 02:38 UTC 1997

Just to clarify:  The name costs $50/year, and our up-front cost would be
$100, which would last us 2 years.  (I saw a larger number back there,
which was probably a typo, so I wanted to make sure everyone saw the numbers
in #0.)  This really isn't very much money; less than one membership/year.
We could get it for two years, and then decide again at that time whether
to continue it.  (Of course, come to think of it, if people spend 2 years
telnetting to grex.org and putting it on web page links, we're not going to
be able to change it easily, are we?  So I'm wrong about that.  I suppose if
we get it now we'll be stuck with it, or we'll have to piss a lot of people 
off when we drop it.  But it's still not a lot of money.)
kaplan
response 19 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 05:44 UTC 1997

I personally wouldn't mind if money from the general fund goes to pay 
for the new domain name.  But it would be nice to see if the $100 could 
be raised by people who feel it's really worth something.

Anyone (member/non-member/interested anonymous person) willing to put up 
some portion of the $100?
nestene
response 20 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 08:39 UTC 1997

$1.00 for grex.org right here!
tsty
response 21 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 09:11 UTC 1997

internic has s *stupid* lynx page. nothign appears to ask for the  grex.org
NOR  cyberspace.org reference.
                        duh!
void
response 22 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 09:50 UTC 1997

   i'll contribute somewhere around $10-$20 to register grex.org (the amount
depends on bills and business. work has been kinda slow lately).
babozita
response 23 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 14:21 UTC 1997

I posted an editorial in re: Valerie's comment in Sexuality, because I said
I was done in this forum. But, hey, my wonderful ex-wife went and flushed the
entire quad just hours after I posted my editorial, knowing how important that
item was to me. Now I can't even repost it there, because Selena hasn't
created any items in a Clean Slate forum.
  
My editorial, to summarize: Whatever other people's motivations for reserving
grex.org, Ms. Mates' motivation has as a major component to protect Grex' good
name. I went and checked out grex.com and discovered I'd been there before,
on a Web search for porn on the Web. I dismissed it as too tame to be
interesting. Vallejo and Rowena and Raffi and Victoria's Secret; most of the
art there are paintings, big-busted women semi-clad with naked butts. Ooo!
Apparently the president hadn't been in Grex' own Sexuality conference, if
this constitutes "the wrong impressionof Grex". 
  
But all of that is moot now, for the time being.
jenna
response 24 of 76: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 05:06 UTC 1997

*I suppose, thinking of this, I should go tell them I'm going to restart
poetry in a couple weeks, give them some time to xerox 
what they want and maybe archive it on my pc* *sigh*
sure register. I don't care. it's all stupid anyway.
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